Coronavirus

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by IanT on 25/03/2020 11:45:39:

We are also very fortunate that we have good folk who are still working to keep us supplied and safe. I went out and thanked our Dustmen yesterday (from a distance) which seemed to both surprise and please them. Shop workers also deserve medals too.

Good point! Went out to put a thank you note on our bi, but it had already been emptied.

Neil

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 25/03/2020 12:19:58:

Posted by J Hancock on 25/03/2020 11:58:33:

No valid DoT and the car is on the road ?

What do the insurance people have to say about that ?

'Goverment are working with insurers to ensure people will be covered'

Assuming the rules are followed, surely it will have an MOT as the government are extending your current one by 6 months.
You won't have a paper copy, but it will show on the on-line MOT checker as everything catches up.

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Spare a thought for the elderly who cannot self-isolate because of their extensive care needs and cannot shop for themselves either online or in person. Spare a thought also for their relatives who are unable to persuade the supermarkets to let them buy rationed commodities such as toilet rolls on their parents' behalf even though their parents are incapable of doing so themselves and their condition means their toilet roll usage is much higher than it is for the average person.

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Typical! Dropped my car off for its MOT test at 9:15, saw the announcement at 12:00.

It passed though, and has been given a good wipe down with antiseptic in all its important little places – don't know if it helps, but it makes me feel better.

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Posted by J Hancock on 25/03/2020 11:58:33:

No valid DoT and the car is on the road ?

What do the insurance people have to say about that ?

Take it DoT is MOT

The goverment have said they are extending MOT certs by 6 months from the 30th March therefore MOT's will be valid no issues with insurance but have reminded people that that should not be driving a dangerous vehicle

H

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

It seems a lot of regulations are being relaxed, my grand daughter flies with BA as cabin crew and she is due her annual recertification in two weeks time but has been cancelled because CAA have said certifications will extend from 12 to 18/months because of the crisis, So we can expect extensions on various requirements, bet they don’t extend road tax though.
Dave W

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by Samsaranda on 25/03/2020 15:58:16:

It seems a lot of regulations are being relaxed, my grand daughter flies with BA as cabin crew and she is due her annual recertification in two weeks time but has been cancelled because CAA have said certifications will extend from 12 to 18/months because of the crisis, So we can expect extensions on various requirements, bet they don’t extend road tax though.
Dave W

I doubt it – we had the rates demand yesterday and it looks like I'm paying a chunk of the national debt with mine!

pgk

[Ex contributorParticipant @mgnbuk]

The goverment have said they are extending MOT certs by 6 months from the 30th March therefore MOT's will be valid

But only for MoTs which expire after the 30th March – guidance for expiries between now an the 30th here

Nigel B

[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

Our doctors surgery has just closed down and locked it's doors we can only go if invited by the surgery so seems 111 or 999 is the only option

Mick 🇫🇴

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Our towns' surgeries have been phone only and no appointments for the last 2 weeks.

[Adam MaraParticipant @adammara]

My 6 year old Suzuki passed today with flying colours!, the garage was just doing pre booked MOT's and is closing down on Friday.

The family company closes down on Friday, the employed staff finished on Monday, and my two sons running it finish on Friday, we have been asked to make spit guards, but cannot obtain the materials. The company has survived 2 world wars and several recessions, but not sure we can survive a pre-longed stoppage.

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

Hi all

I am a dog owner and I have been taking the dog out each day, as allowed, for exercise.

An acquaintance says she has read on Facebook that dogs and cats can carry the virus on their coats, and that as they interact with each other they can pass the virus on from one animal to another, and hence from one household to another. Anyone else heard this? I am aware we have at least one vet on the forum, anything in this do you think?

Facebook is hardly an authoritive source and the language of the item "virus can cling to" seems very unscientific, but perhaps?

Rod

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Perhaps dogs and cats need to practice social distancing as well. 🤪.
Dave W

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

Perhaps so, but it will be difficult to explain to a dog, and who knows what cats get up to when they are out?

I did hear of a cat owner who wondered what her cat got up to and put a note on its collar asking any human it interacted with to get in touch with her. She discovered it was being fed by about 6 families in her neibourhood. Might be an interesting exercise for all cat owners to try?

Rod

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by Rod Renshaw on 25/03/2020 18:14:07:

Hi all

I am a dog owner and I have been taking the dog out each day, as allowed, for exercise.

An acquaintance says she has read on Facebook that dogs and cats can carry the virus on their coats, and that as they interact with each other they can pass the virus on from one animal to another, and hence from one household to another. Anyone else heard this? I am aware we have at least one vet on the forum, anything in this do you think?

Facebook is hardly an authoritive source and the language of the item "virus can cling to" seems very unscientific, but perhaps?

Rod

There is no evidence of the virus being able to replicate in animals. google translated

Any risk will be similar to that of brushing or touching an object brushed or touched by any other carrier i.e not impossible but pretty unlikely and even more dilute when a brushed object brushes anothet object…

pgk

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

I would say that was perfectly feasable, virus particle can stay intact ouside the body for some time on many surfaces including animals. They are at body heat and somewhat moist. Thats why the hand washing is so important. If you can I would say you need to keep your animals close where you can. It becomes more important if you are shielding because you are at specific risk like my wife. I now open the post and shake the contents free. Bin the envelopes and then wash my hands. It may be thatt the risk is low but the practice is cheap and uncomplicated. I'm working on the principle that the wrappings will have been recently handled but the inners handled further back in time. Everyone strokes animals so you have a valid potential vector with a permiscuous pet.

Weigh the risk and do as you see fit. It won't do any harm. Wash your hand and don't touch your face.

regards Martin

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Mick Henshall on 25/03/2020 16:41:56:

Our doctors surgery has just closed down and locked it's doors we can only go if invited by the surgery so seems 111 or 999 is the only option

Mick 🇫🇴

Our local surgery (one of three in the practice) was under threat of closure because it got a poor rating from the CQC and it needed investment. The partners have now 'temporarily' closed it saying that it was becoming increasingly difficult to deliver all their services. Their original closure proposal claimed that two instead of three locations would be better for all patients. It was near impossible to get a doctors appointment before the current situation arose, so here too it looks like 111 or 999 is all we have.

Ian P

[LimpetParticipant @limpet]

I feel like I'm getting paranoid about all this. My wife has just finished chemotherapy and I suffer asthma. We have totally isolated for just over a week now and are treating anything new into 'our bubble' as a threat. All non urgent things get put into a room we don't use, with disposable gloves and left for 4 days all urgent is opened with gloves and dealt with, and food containers treated with a disinfectant wipe. Am I being paranoid?

 

Edited By Limpet on 25/03/2020 21:37:26

[SakuraParticipant @sakura]

Posted by Limpet on 25/03/2020 21:36:42:

I feel like I'm getting paranoid about all this. My wife has just finished chemotherapy and I suffer asthma. We have totally isolated for just over a week now and are treating anything new into 'our bubble' as a threat. All non urgent things get put into a room we don't use, with disposable gloves and left for 4 days all urgent is opened with gloves and dealt with, and food containers treated with a disinfectant wipe. Am I being paranoid?

Edited By Limpet on 25/03/2020 21:37:26

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Be careful, it will serve you well at this point in time.

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Posted by blowlamp on 20/03/2020 17:25:25:

Does anyone know anyone who's died of this thing yet?

Yes, the parent of a colleague of my wife's has just died of it.

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

I don't think you are being paranoid Limpet for doing what you can. You seem to have thought about things, understood how virus particle can be transmitted, used the stuff you have available and made a plan. Knowing that you have done what you can to make yourself as safe as you can should bring some comfort to you.

My wife is diabetic and has partial kidney failure so we are doing all we can too. Everything else we cannot change.

I have to say the nicest time of day is when we close the curtains at night and it all seems to receed somewhat.

All the best to you and your wife, enjoy the time together if nothing else and hopefully get through it all.

regards Martin

[LimpetParticipant @limpet]

Thank you Sakura and Martin for your thoughts I hope we all come out the other side, and the world becomes a better place for it. The only benefit is you get to spend time with each other rather than having to go here there and everywhere

Keep safe all

[Nathan SharpeParticipant @nathansharpe19746]

No paranoia as far as I'm concerned, just good sense. I would suggest that food containers that can be frozen and then cooked from that state are not likely to be a problem if you use a microwave or oven to reheat. If you are worried about essential mail you could also microwave for a FEW seconds or open outdoors or spray with a soap solution before opening.

I have cardiac problems/copd/diverticulosis/costochondritis/ possibly rhabdomyolysis or similar and an as yet undiagnosed tremor .

Needless to say my appointments are cancelled.

Did manage to shop for food/drink today so we can eat and drink!

All of us need to take care and use family to help at a distance. I f you have a thermometer use it daily on each other, spend time with each other or garden /workshop.

Just stay safe everyone. Nathan.

[Steve FParticipant @stevef]

I was sent a link to a Bill Gates TED lecture filmed in 2015. Here

Shame nobody listened

regards

Steve

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Multiple sources are reporting 21 million mobile phone users in China have 'disappeared' over the past couple of months, could it be that naughty citizens have been scoring low on their social credit points by talking about new virus cases online, and being made to sit on the CCP naughty step with no phone?

Or Western imperialist propaganda?

Does anyone believe anything coming out of China at this point?

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