Benedict Cumberbatch featured on Cover of MEW 243

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Well, not really. But at least we have someone with a bit more dress sense…

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/editorial/page.asp?p=250

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

[MWParticipant @mw27036]

Interesting,

I dont get the "fake casting" thing, why would i want to make something look kinda rough and dull? I'm not dissin' just wondering, genuine curiosity.

Michael W

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Well if you don't want to go to the trouble of making patterns and having something cast for a one off then to get it to look like a casting you are trying to replicate on a model you would want a similar look rather than a painted bit of bar stock. That is why draft angle is added, slight texturing (subject to scale) fillets to internal corners etc.

I'll read the article later but from teh preview those don't look like the author is trying to get a casting look, just making parts that would have been cast for ease originally. Faking it from solid is when you take a block and make it into somethiong that resembles a complex casting

From this

to this

But thats the difference between ME and MEW

Edited By JasonB on 09/06/2016 15:43:02

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by JasonB on 09/06/2016 15:34:14:

… But thats the difference between ME and MEW

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So; is the article in the wrong magazine ?

MichaelG.

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Don't worry … I do get the point.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Maybe a case of function over form!

If I were to be repairing an old machine or replacing a missing part I would do my best to get the new part to look like the original, a rectangular block may well do the job but would not be aesthetically pleasing but that does not seem to be a problem for some people apparently.

 

Edited By JasonB on 09/06/2016 16:30:56

[frank brownParticipant @frankbrown22225]

ME is Model Engineering, i.e. replicating some thing in minature complete with casting fillets etc. Model Engineers Workshop is about making or modifying tools. My lathe is a load of rough old casting so there is not a reference edge to measure from. A new cross slide, all nice and square would be a real benefit.

Frank

[colin hawesParticipant @colinhawes85982]

Sometimes it is impossible or too fragile to make a casting to outside scale with internal space such as a gearbox and it is best to then fabricate by welding or machine from solid. This means there is a desire to make the fabrication look like a casting. I have recently done this for a model gearbox by leaving weld spatter all over it and had several people ask me how I made the casting. In this case weld ripples were smoothed, filled, attacked with a grinding wheel and painted aluminium colour.

Colin

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Having just read the rest of the article there are some very nice examples of shaping a piece of metal to look like an intricate cast part of a machine which when painted you would be hard to tell they were not OME. A perfect example of why you would want to make the part look "rough and dull"

The article could quite happily have been in either mag as the thinking and processes are equally of use if making a model or replicating parts for a machine at 1:1 scale.

J

[RobboParticipant @robbo]

"Benedict Cumberbatch featured on Cover of MEW 244"

So who's the old guy on the cover of MEW 243 ?

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

There's no law about what goes into which magazine, but MEW is tools and TECHNIQUES.

For example, we could cover the techniques used in making an injector (e.g. making and using small taper reamers and concentric opposed bores) though we wouldn't publish an injector design, because the techniques have wider applications and interest.

Also, this chap is fabricating replacement/new parts for his machines and wants them to fit in. In my own small way i have fabricated the base for a dividing head from two parts screwed together with a fillet of epoxy for aesthetic reasons.

Ah! I see Jason has made the point nicely already.

Neil

[geoff walker 1Participant @geoffwalker1]

So who's the old guy on the cover of MEW 243 ?

Well I believe his name is John Stevenson.

Nothing like Benedict Cumberbatch but does have a passing resemblance to Jim Broadbent (Roy Slater in Only fools and horses)

geoff

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Talking of the old codger bodger on the cover, did anyone get their drills sharpened by him and if so have you had a chance to see how they cut?

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by geoff walker 1 on 09/06/2016 19:47:01:

So who's the old guy on the cover of MEW 243 ?

Well I believe his name is John Stevenson.

Nothing like Benedict Cumberbatch but does have a passing resemblance to Jim Broadbent (Roy Slater in Only fools and horses)

geoff

I have no idea what you mean….

[julian atkinsParticipant @julianatkins58923]

Does our old friend John sound like Jim Broadbent? Must admit the resemblance is uncanny!

Cheers,

Julian

[Martin WParticipant @martinw]

Shame the crushed orange soft drinks can wasn't removed before the photograph was taken, rather spoils the set up.

Martin

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

You mean the carefully bodged crafted lightweight dust seperator Can't have bits of grit getting all over his new toys.

The EMG's are best run with a small vacuum on the outlet but expect JS did not want the hastle or noise as the machines are very quiet.

Edited By JasonB on 10/06/2016 10:06:11

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

An' he has got a decent pullie on this year.

Regards Ian.

[Martin WParticipant @martinw]

And I thought it was there to dunk the bits in when they got too hot when being sharpened, though it might double up as a new and novel de-rusting solution .

Martin

Edited By Martin W on 10/06/2016 10:59:12

[VersabossParticipant @versaboss]

Bit off topic, I know…

But I was quite surprised to see that – again – an article features these (in)famous SEIG lathes

Regards, HansR.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Can't see any Seig lathe article in there? do you mean mill?

I suppose as more and more people own the Seigs or Warco/Chester? etc vari speed ones then the amount of articles about them will increase. Though I doubt the Myford ones will decrease for a long time

 

I see very similar things in the German ME mags where the Optimum and Wabeco lathe articles get a lot of coverage, just the publisher catering for the market.

Edited By JasonB on 10/06/2016 12:35:38

[Michael Green 2Participant @michaelgreen2]

As the author of the 'fake casting' article, my reason for making these items was simply that parts were not available for some equipment I was restoring/ refurbishing and so I made my own, trying to make make parts that looked enough like the originals that they would blend with the rest of machine and not look out of place. As Jason said if some of them got a coat of paint, it would be hard to tell.

The photos on the first page are just a couple of pulleys but chosen to show typical 'cast' type features. There are some more complex items on the other pages. My hope was that readers would see that a cast part does not always have to be cast and possibly have a go at machining parts rather than paying a lot of money for casting services for a one off.

(A couple of people who saw what I was doing suggested that I submit an article so…)

Michael

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Michael Green 2 on 11/06/2016 10:06:11:

As the author of the 'fake casting' article, my reason for making these items was simply that parts were not available for some equipment I was restoring/ refurbishing and so I made my own, trying to make make parts that looked enough like the originals that they would blend with the rest of machine and not look out of place.

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(A couple of people who saw what I was doing suggested that I submit an article so…)

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And I'm glad you did

Useful article … Thanks

MichaelG.

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