Annoying Ad

Annoying Ad

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  • #860043
    jaCK Hobson
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      @jackhobson50760

      The overlay ‘always on top’ Warco add at the bottom is annoying. It can’t be ‘best practice’ can it?

      One big one at the top is enough and welcome. The bottom one makes me associate Warco with annoyance.

      #860048
      bernard towers
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        @bernardtowers37738

        couldnt agree more and it covers thelatest replies button

        #860055
        roy entwistle
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          @royentwistle24699

          I agree with both remarks above It puts me off Warco

          Roy

          #860083
          Nicholas Farr
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            @nicholasfarr14254

            Hi, yes it is annoying, but it doesn’t put me off using Warco, just a shame that once you’ve clicked it off, it comes back on when you click onto the next post. But if we all continue to shun the suppliers, then they will all disappear.

            Regards Nick.

            #860084
            Nigel Graham 2
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              @nigelgraham2

              Don’t blame Warco. It pays for the advertising space so helps fund this forum, but does not design the site and its owners’ business model.

              This matter came up a long time ago when we learnt it had it changed hands and fallen into Google’s greedy grasp, so the policy of swamping the material with ads is likely Google’s.

              At least Warco is a genuine engineering-equipment retailer many of us use; not a foreign fraud attempt like those “IQ Test” and supposed dating-agencies that Goggles allows to despoil the site.

              #860088
              Diogenes
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                @diogenes

                You see that little ‘X’ in the ad’s top R/H corner, clicking on it will cause the ad to close..

                #860124
                Bo’sun
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                  @bosun58570
                  On Diogenes Said:

                  You see that little ‘X’ in the ad’s top R/H corner, clicking on it will cause the ad to close..

                  Yes, but when you do something else it comes flying back.  Like many others here, I find it very annoying.

                  #860126
                  Nigel Graham 2
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                    @nigelgraham2

                    That “X” closes the ad only temporarily.

                    There are two symbols. The ‘X’ closes the ad for a short while. The other, called “AdChoices”, is a sort of virus used by Google to help its designers.

                    Google has designed both keys to trick you into approving such advertisement placing, and its choice of advertisements. I gave up trying to use them ‘X’ after the Silicon Valley liars started claiming to use your response to “improve” or enhance” what it says is a service to you.

                     

                    It is wrong to blame the advertisers for the displays being intrusive. Google regards all the sites it controls as purely to push the advertisements, and whilst it might allow “local” editors some relevant ones such as those from Warco, Google directs what other ads will appear, and how intrusive all will be.

                    Tony Griffiths’ lathes.co has been made almost unuseable by the US-based shysters covering so much of the screen with irrelevant rubbish.

                     

                    #860127
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb
                      On jaCK Hobson Said:

                      The overlay ‘always on top’ Warco add at the bottom is annoying. It can’t be ‘best practice’ can it?

                      One big one at the top is enough and welcome. The bottom one makes me associate Warco with annoyance.

                      It depends on how you get to the forum. I have the latest replies bookmarked so go straight to that and don’t see the top warco banner ad. But even if you go to the home page first as most people visit for the forum once in they won’t see the top advert either.

                      Warco obviously want to get a return from their adverts so get far better monies worth with the bottom one which being pinned to the screen will always show rather than one pinned to the top of a page that soon goes out of sight or does not get see at all. Certainly good practice if you want to get your ad seen.

                      At the end of the day it is the ads that keep the forum going so it is really a case of put up with them or loose the forum.

                      #860131
                      Paul Lousick
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                        @paullousick59116

                        I run Ublock origin on my browser and do not see the add

                        #860132
                        JasonB
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                          @jasonb
                          On Paul Lousick Said:

                          I run Ublock origin on my browser and do not see the add

                          This is the other worry, as our advertisers read that people block the ads or suggest that oters do the same  they will be less likely to spend money for things that don’t get seen so again the forum may get lost.

                          #860134
                          noel shelley
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                            @noelshelley55608

                            I agree that the ads are annoying BUT we all make choices. Free lunch or pay !

                            Jasons last paragraph says it all.  Noel.

                            #860140
                            Graham Meek
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                              @grahammeek88282

                              While I agree with Jason’s sentiments, it should not mean however we have to be blackmailed into putting up with a bad site because Google dictates that this is to be what we get.

                              Hence why I have learnt to ignore the ads. If you are quick on the buttons the ones at the top of the page do not load fast enough to be a problem.

                              Using Googles little tools like AdChoices, is a complete waste of time. I have every ad listed on their platform blocked, and yet I still see their ads, so there are no choices there.

                              Just as I was writing this a black box has appeared at the top. Telling me to “Activate Account”. Clearly an ad for something but it does not tell me anything at all about the product. No doubt I shall learn that when I “Confirm Account”, (In their dreams)

                              It does go to show that advertisements are a complete waste of time and money, if we end up ignoring them. They certainly have not achieved their objective of “reeling us in” and might as well not be there. This is probably why the TV adverts have assumed a near Soap Opera quality and length these days. Because people have become bored with the short one-liners of years gone by.

                              I have yet to buy anything from any advert. If I need something I look for it, and research it, no impulse buying here. My income has never been, nor never will be “Disposable”. I have worked too hard to earn it in the past. To end up just frittering it away on the latest Gizmo of very dubious quality.

                              I had better add I have used Warco products for well over 30 years, the quality is better than most and I have always had good service from them in the past. There was no Google back then and Warco were recommended by word of mouth. (Usual Disclaimer).

                              Regards

                              Gray,

                              #860144
                              Bo’sun
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                                @bosun58570
                                On Graham Meek Said:

                                This is probably why the TV adverts have assumed a near Soap Opera quality and length these days.

                                 

                                Gray,

                                That’s why I watch almost exclusively BBC.  Yes, I may be missing out on some good stuff, but it realy ceases to be good when the combined length of the adverts is as long as the programme itself.  BBC iPlayer isn’t perfect, but at least it’s ad free, and that’s fine by me.

                                #860146
                                jaCK Hobson
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                                  @jackhobson50760

                                  I urge Warco to ask what the click through rates are for the bottom one vs top. If the stats prove the bottom one is much more effective than any other location then fair enough.

                                  However, it certainly annoys some (me). Personally, I think the website design could be improved and I would hope a better solution is sought and available. So, for example, on my screen the bottom banner takes up a lot of real-estate while there is still a lot of blank screen to the right of the text box.  So maybe use postion: sticky and set the position to the right, not the bottom. Maybe adjust how things are displayed depending on screen size.

                                  Obviously I understand ads pay the bills and I welcome advitisers. Unlike many other sites, the ads here are pretty well targeted!

                                  I’m trying to be helpful and hope the feedback is considered.

                                  #860150
                                  jaCK Hobson
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                                    @jackhobson50760
                                    On jaCK Hobson Said:

                                    nally, I think the website design could be improved and I would hope a better solution is sought and available. So, for example, on my screen the bottom banner takes up a lot of real-estate while there is still a lot of blank screen to the right of the text box.  So maybe use postion: sticky and set the position to the right, not the bottom. Maybe adjust how things are displayed depending on screen size

                                    Ah, I see the problem with that…

                                    That space is reserved for ad banners that scroll. I never see them as I always scroll right past them to get to the recent posts. I only get to see the advert placed above ‘latests replies’ (currently Amadeal). That ad seems to be designed for the rh positon so when centred it seems inefficient. Better to have different banner more appropriate to the display location.

                                    These sorts of problems used to be within my area of responsibility, but not anymore – and I’m out of date.

                                    #860176
                                    Graham Meek
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                                      @grahammeek88282
                                      On Bo’sun Said:
                                      On Graham Meek Said:

                                      This is probably why the TV adverts have assumed a near Soap Opera quality and length these days.

                                       

                                      Gray,

                                      That’s why I watch almost exclusively BBC.  Yes, I may be missing out on some good stuff, but it realy ceases to be good when the combined length of the adverts is as long as the programme itself.  BBC iPlayer isn’t perfect, but at least it’s ad free, and that’s fine by me.

                                      We too tend to watch iPlayer mostly, but this is not without its mandatory Plug for an up and coming series or trending programme before you start to watch your chosen programme. I think the BeeB will soon have adverts like ITV, etc, to help fund the wages.

                                      Regards

                                      Gray,

                                      #860177
                                      JasonB
                                      Moderator
                                        @jasonb
                                        On jaCK Hobson Said:
                                        On jaCK Hobson Said:

                                        nally, I think the website design could be improved and I would hope a better solution is sought and available. So, for example, on my screen the bottom banner takes up a lot of real-estate while there is still a lot of blank screen to the right of the text box.  So maybe use postion: sticky and set the position to the right, not the bottom. Maybe adjust how things are displayed depending on screen size

                                        Ah, I see the problem with that…

                                        That space is reserved for ad banners that scroll. I never see them as I always scroll right past them to get to the recent posts. I only get to see the advert placed above ‘latests replies’ (currently Amadeal). That ad seems to be designed for the rh positon so when centred it seems inefficient. Better to have different banner more appropriate to the display location.

                                        These sorts of problems used to be within my area of responsibility, but not anymore – and I’m out of date.

                                        I’m not sure how you manage that Jack as the first few posts in any thread are usually shorter than the various items down the right hand side, it is only as a thread gets longer that the right column become blank

                                        rhs

                                        #860196
                                        duncan webster 1
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                                          @duncanwebster1

                                          I don’t have any problem with the ads, someone has to pay for the forum. What I do hate is if I hit the upload photo button by mistake, the only way to get out is to close the forum and start again

                                          #860204
                                          Nigel Graham 2
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                                            @nigelgraham2

                                            Out of curiosity I selected the third symbol that has appeared on the Warco ad, labelled “About our ads.”

                                            I am not sure I understood the rubric, as that appears based at the advertising and web-site trade, not we mere commodities who onlyl use them. However, its own “About us” seems to show that the “our” – ContentIgnite – is a British firm that places the ads. How far it goes, in design and layout is another matter. It looks merely like yet another intermediary taking its cut from the sellers themselves, such as Warco.

                                            It offers a choice to exclude so-called “personalised” ads – an old and still horrible Americanism that in this context shows how the like of Google will pry into your Internet use. It seems irrelevant anyway because it cites US, and particularly Californian, privacy laws.

                                             

                                            The PCBWay ad at the top of the screen shows neither an ‘X’ nor the ‘ContentIgnite’ symbol, so these pseudo-editing tools might be what is available to the individual advertiser or his agent.

                                             

                                            At least Warco is one of “ours”…. Unlike the Chinese and US-based box-shifters some extol on here.

                                            #860205
                                            JasonB
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                                              @jasonb
                                              On duncan webster 1 Said:

                                              I don’t have any problem with the ads, someone has to pay for the forum. What I do hate is if I hit the upload photo button by mistake, the only way to get out is to close the forum and start again

                                              Duncan, can you not click the X in the top right corner. Alternative is to hit the escape key if on a windows keyboard.

                                              close image

                                              #860217
                                              duncan webster 1
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                                                @duncanwebster1

                                                The problem is on my android phone, I can hit the X in the top right corner but it does nothing, and of course I don’t have an esc key on a phone

                                                #860218
                                                JasonB
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                                                  @jasonb

                                                  The X closes it with no problem on my Android phone.

                                                  #860220
                                                  duncan webster 1
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                                                    @duncanwebster1

                                                    well it doesn’t on mine, and I’ve tried moving the white box up and down the screen

                                                    #860224
                                                    JasonB
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                                                      @jasonb

                                                      In that case if you don’t want to start again touch the image box, choose an image from file or camera and upload that. You can then touch the image which brings up a row of icons along the top, at the right of those icons is another X which will delete the image but leave anything else you have previously typed. Again it does it on mine but may not if you are running old software.

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