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    Andy Brocklehurst
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      Hi,

      I’ve just bought a Warco WM180 lathe which im slowly learning how to use. I bought it primarily to make aluminium bronze bushing.

      I bought a cheap set of tools with inserts just to practice with. I’ve got a set of HSS tools on order.

      from the picture can anyone tell me if the insert number is identifiable so I can buy some more? All the different inserts are confusing to say the least!

      thanks

      IMG_1726

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      #813758
      Diogenes
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        @diogenes

        That looks like it is for ‘DC**07020*’ inserts – so for example, something like DCMT070204, or DCGT070202 – broadly, the letters define the shape and style and the numbers represent dimensions.

        Commonly the choices are between M for ‘Moulded’ or G for ‘Ground’, and the final variable requiring you to make a choice is the last number which represents the tip radius in tenths of a mm – usually available in 0.2, 0.4, or 0.8mm

        For most applications (and especially non-ferrous work) the ground DCGT inserts are usually best choice for a hobby machine, and a 0.2mm radius would probably also be better – so those inserts would be ‘DCGT070202’.

        DO the other holders in the set use the exact same tips?! – if not you’ll have to post them individually – some sets are ‘mixed’

        – also have to say that particular tool shape would not be the one I picked out first – is there one called ‘SDJCR’ in your set?

         

        #813762
        Huub
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          @huub

          For aluminum bronze the G type inserts are better suitable because they are ground and very sharp. Because of that, the cutting forces are lower then when using a M type insert. I think your WM180 “mini” lathe will do well using these G type inserts, even on steel.

          As said already, a SDJCR type tool would be more suitable for most turning and facing operations.

           

          #813764
          Andy Brocklehurst
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            @andybrocklehurst85292
            On Diogenes Said:

            That looks like it is for ‘DC**07020*’ inserts – so for example, something like DCMT070204, or DCGT070202 – broadly, the letters define the shape and style and the numbers represent dimensions.

            Commonly the choices are between M for ‘Moulded’ or G for ‘Ground’, and the final variable requiring you to make a choice is the last number which represents the tip radius in tenths of a mm – usually available in 0.2, 0.4, or 0.8mm

            For most applications (and especially non-ferrous work) the ground DCGT inserts are usually best choice for a hobby machine, and a 0.2mm radius would probably also be better – so those inserts would be ‘DCGT070202’.

            DO the other holders in the set use the exact same tips?! – if not you’ll have to post them individually – some sets are ‘mixed’

            – also have to say that particular tool shape would not be the one I picked out first – is there one called ‘SDJCR’ in your set?

            Hi,

            thank you for the reply it’s very helpful.

             

            Yes there is a SDJCR1010H07

            MGEHR1010-2

            SCLCR1010H06

            S10K-SCLCR06

            SNR0010K11

            plus this one that isnt marked

            IMG_1732

             

             

             

             

            #813765
            Andy Brocklehurst
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              @andybrocklehurst85292
              On Huub Said:

              For aluminum bronze the G type inserts are better suitable because they are ground and very sharp. Because of that, the cutting forces are lower then when using a M type insert. I think your WM180 “mini” lathe will do well using these G type inserts, even on steel.

              As said already, a SDJCR type tool would be more suitable for most turning and facing operations.

               

              Thank you.

               

              #813770
              Diogenes
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                @diogenes

                MGEHR ****– use grooving / parting inserts MGMN200 (‘straight’ across the front) or MRMN200 (with radius). The 200 indicates they are 2mm wide.

                The turning tool and boring bar marked SCLCR use CC*T 06020*, same conditions apply as with your DC*T inserts so use CCGT060202 (or CCGT060204 if you want a bigger tip radius).

                SNR0010K11 is an internal threading tool for 11NR partial form threading inserts –

                The unmarked tool should be something like SER1010H16, an external threading tool for 16ER partial form threading inserts –

                – with these 11 & 16 denote size, N & E denote whether interNal or External, and R is for Right-cutting (i.e. tool moves towards the chuck).

                Don’t know whether you know about thread angles, but very simplistically ‘55′ inserts are for Whitworth and other threads with 55 degree flanks, and the ‘60′ are standard for ISO metric and UN-series threads – you may come across other or uncertain thread-forms and you can always ask again then..

                 

                #813772
                Diogenes
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                  @diogenes

                  You will find most (probably all) of the types discussed are available from a supplier such as APT or will come up from a search

                  – it’s worth having a browse of APT’s website nonetheless because it will help you see how the trade lays out the specifications & descriptions, and (hopefully) make it clearer ‘how it works’ when it comes to choosing

                  https://www.shop-apt.co.uk/

                  #813776
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    If you want to understand the code on the holders then this page from Cutwel is quite easy to follow

                    #813778
                    Andy Brocklehurst
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                      @andybrocklehurst85292
                      On Diogenes Said:

                      MGEHR ****– use grooving / parting inserts MGMN200 (‘straight’ across the front) or MRMN200 (with radius). The 200 indicates they are 2mm wide.

                      The turning tool and boring bar marked SCLCR use CC*T 06020*, same conditions apply as with your DC*T inserts so use CCGT060202 (or CCGT060204 if you want a bigger tip radius).

                      SNR0010K11 is an internal threading tool for 11NR partial form threading inserts –

                      The unmarked tool should be something like SER1010H16, an external threading tool for 16ER partial form threading inserts –

                      – with these 11 & 16 denote size, N & E denote whether interNal or External, and R is for Right-cutting (i.e. tool moves towards the chuck).

                      Don’t know whether you know about thread angles, but very simplistically ‘55′ inserts are for Whitworth and other threads with 55 degree flanks, and the ‘60′ are standard for ISO metric and UN-series threads – you may come across other or uncertain thread-forms and you

                      Thank you for taking the trouble to do this, it’s very helpful.

                       

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