It's no better over here. Newspaper said 20+ convictions are not that rare.

When I ran a recovery company we became aware of this poem through the industry & put a printed copy up in the secure area where folk would sort out the collection of their cars. Several Police forces have printed posters & used it in their campaigns over the years.

The exact author is unknown, it is believed to have originated in Australia & it has been very highly pligiarised & passed off by many on the internets. This copy is I believe as close to the original as I can remember.

I think that anyone who chooses to drink & drive should have their faces smashed into it.

http://www.hendrickscountysso.com/pdf/MOM.pdf

To be fair, in those countries, especially north korea I don't think they would give you a full count of their real prison population even if that included the "re-education" camps where a lot of people die, for really stupid reasons, you can be prosecuted for just one of your family members doing something.

Michael W

Edited By Michael-w on 02/05/2018 18:18:36

A few pints of beer makes you a fantastic driver, you may be the only person who thinks this though.

Mike

Any body who drinks and drives should be put off the road for all time,full stop,no second chances ! Their cars should be crushed as should be the cars of anyone foolish enough to provide them with cars.They should also be locked up for at least ten years,during which they should be required to attend every major road crash involving drink driving.

Needless to say,they should never,never be allowed on the road again,and I mean NEVER.!

I,m sick and tired reading and listening to the crap I hear about this scum,day after day,many a good dog was put down for far less, Make no mistake about it,they are nothing more than SCUM.!

There's a motivation issue

The 2000-2008 Edinburgh Trams were about 8 miles and cost a Billion quid

Anyone who was crap got a big pay-off and walked away

Hadrians wall was 75 miles, had zero power tools or JCBs and took 5 years tops

If you were crap you got crucified

Draw your own conclusions

edit: Bottom line is criminals get the soft touch and government eejits get rewarded

Edited By Ady1 on 03/05/2018 00:50:52

You are referring to sentencing, not necessarily sending to prison, but taking it to the full step of internment & knowing that a the large part of the prison community is of a particular religious sector (have to be careful here not to break forum rules) It is a fact that a large proportion of those leaving prison are leaving "radicalised".

Now I am not suggesting that a drunkard (& one can include any sector of the community & for any crime not just alcohol related) might be radicalised in a religious way but with the prison system breaking down to the extent that this can be allowed to happen, I can make a fair bet that the atmosphere is such that of those that are not radicalised in a religious way may well be radicalised in a criminal way.

In other words i would not be surprised that instead of coming out having learned a lesson they are coming out with the attitude that they intend to be more " criminal" than when they went in.

So when one reads in the media about the number of those released who go on to commit crimes, I am not sure that prison is actually working as a "deterrent". It is only any good for keeping really dangerous types away from the public for good, rather than being a means of preventing re-offending.

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 03/05/2018 07:39:29

That'll only work where there is still:

i) a sense of coherence in the community, and

ii) a sense of shame in the individual.

Interesting to see the desire to inflict severe punishment on drunk-drivers now I've decided to run the country and need to whip up popular support. Quite, right, string em' up from the nearest lamp-post I say!

But chaps, when I'm in charge, you will find I have even stronger views on speeding. If I catch you speeding, it will be a mandatory thrashing and public humiliation before lynching puts you out of your misery. And to make sure drivers understand, punishment will include sending the offenders entire family to a Work Camp.

Mealy mouthed liberal intellectuals might consider my views a little extreme. But someone has to take a grip. Reasons why society must take a hard-line on speeding include:

• Just like alcohol, speeding is one the main factors in fatal road accidents.
• Unlike drunks, whose normal judgement has been impaired by a drug, there is no excuse for speeding; the offence is entirely deliberate.
• Stand by any roadside and see for yourself that drivers rarely obey the law. A speed limit is the maximum allowed, not the target. Watch and you will see it is rare to see traffic travelling at less than the limit, which proves that most drivers are habitual law breakers. And if they break the law on the road, then they will break it elsewhere; drivers are anarchists. Responsible motorists travelling below the speed limit are often bullied by aggressive and inconsiderate road-users proving that most drivers are vicious. You must conclude that car drivers are a bad lot who need to be corrected.
• The consequences of law-breaking are all too often evaded by offenders exploiting our weak justice system. We must put an end to this: there is no reason at all why Traffic Wardens shouldn't dispense summary justice up to and including the death penalty.

Severe punishment at minimum cost to the tax-payer is the way to fix this scandal. By the way, I'm an expert. I've read Dostoevsky on Crime and Punishment; and I watched an excellent documentary about policing in the US – a chap called Judge Dredd is doing a marvellous job over there. Also mother taught me right from wrong and she reads the Daily Mail.

Vote for Silly Old Duffer! What could possibly go wrong…

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 03/05/2018 09:31:10

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 03/05/2018 09:32:46

Is Silly Old Duffer speaking with tongue in cheek, or not? Personally, I'm totally fed up with soft sentences for drunk drivers, speeders, child molesters, and other parasites. And as for those who make excuses for them, I can do without bleeding-heart liberals in my life.