Welding Mazak

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    vintagengineer
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      @vintagengineer

      What is the best way to weld Mazak?

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      #33125
      vintagengineer
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        #332337
        Dusty
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          @dusty

          Mazak cannot be welded, its melting point is far to low. It can be soft soldered I understand, but have never tried, or needed to myself.

          #332338
          donkey
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            @donkey

            A good way to join it with strength is with a product like lumiweld. It can be done on a cooker flame. And uses a stainless rod to rid the weld puddle of oxidation. I have used it on motorcycle parts. And have never rebooked any of them.

            Brian

            #332340
            not done it yet
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              @notdoneityet

              I don't believe you will weld mazak in the way welding works – ie fusing the metal by melting at the joints, often using a filler to build up the joint. Filling with a braze type of filler is possible by careful selection and careful temperature control, but brazing is not welding – just higher temperature than most soldering.

              Mazak is just what it is-a cheap diecasting material, often susceptible to expansion if stored in damp conditions.

              #332343
              Hillclimber
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                #332360
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt

                  In theory it should be possible to weld it, if you can find a way to create a weld pool without the heat just melting the whole thing. You could cast up some sticks of mazac for filler metal.

                  The trouble is it melts at such a low temperature it will be hard to get the sharp temperature gradient usually involved in welding.

                  Perhaps a micro Oxy-propane set or a small carbon arc would provide a localised enough source of heat.

                  I would go with the Lumiweld suggestion, it's probably more strong and stable than Mazac.

                  Neil

                  #332366
                  vintagengineer
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                    @vintagengineer

                    I rebuild SU and they are made from the worst possible shit imaginable! The also suffer from hydrogen embrittlement which doesn't help!

                    But I will try lumiweld with both a flame and my tig welder.

                    #332378
                    J Hancock
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                      @jhancock95746

                      Just be prepared to catch the puddle of molten Mazak, it happens quickly !

                      You might try one of the really low temperature 70deg alloys as a filler ?

                      #332379
                      Hillclimber
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                        @hillclimber

                        If you are using TIG, I should have thought pulse essential. But take a look at these, although the thread on the Miller site is a little old…

                        http://tinyurl.com/y7rl9u36

                        http://tinyurl.com/y846gung

                        Finally, I'd suggest you pay attention to those zinc vapours if you try welding. They are unpleasant and dangerous.

                        #332395
                        Ady1
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                          @ady1

                          I rebuild SU

                          Is that SU carbs?

                          #332403
                          vintagengineer
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                            @vintagengineer
                            Posted by Ady1 on 17/12/2017 11:36:38:

                            I rebuild SU

                            Is that SU carbs?

                            Yes, sorry I think faster than i can type!

                            #332415
                            donkey
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                              @donkey

                              My post should have said never rebroken any of them. Seems I type too fast also.

                              Bri

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