Horizontal clack valves

Horizontal clack valves

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    John Rutzen
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      Hi, Please could anyone tell me if clack valves will work horizontally? I have a clearance problem and it could be solved if I could fit the clacks horizontally but i don't know if they will work!

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      John Rutzen
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        #349933
        nigel jones 5
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          No – the standard steam ones rely on gravity to close the inlet, but you can use a stainless spring to do the job instead and have them in any position – tricky part is getting the spring strength just right. You can buy sprung valves for oil but im not aware of any for steam/water so you may have to make your own. The clack doesnt have to be next to the boiler, it can be anywhere in the feed line, cant you just move it away to where you have space?

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          John Rutzen
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            Thanks that's an idea, just move it away. Why didn't I think of that. Probably because there are always two clacks, one on the pump and one fixed to the boiler . It's only about 3 inches from the crosshead pump to the boiler clack so do I need another clack at all?

            #350009
            Paul 60
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              Clacks do not rely on gravity to seal they rely on pressure. Anyway what you need is a inline clack. These are sold by all the usual model engineering suppliers.

              #350017
              John Rutzen
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                Thanks , the suppliers never make it clear that the inline ones will work horizontally. Often they are pictured vertically.

                #350029
                duncan webster 1
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                  Lawrie Lawrence once wrote in ME that he would not entertain clack valves mounted direct on the boiler, but didn't say why. I can only think he wanted to keep them cool, perhaps so that scale deposition was less. I've read somewhere that scale is deposited as soon as water is heated, not necessarily when it boils away, but this might be rubbish. we have very soft water where I live, so no direct experience.

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                  Brian G
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                    Posted by duncan webster on 13/04/2018 00:23:39:

                    Lawrie Lawrence once wrote in ME that he would not entertain clack valves mounted direct on the boiler, but didn't say why. I can only think he wanted to keep them cool, perhaps so that scale deposition was less. I've read somewhere that scale is deposited as soon as water is heated, not necessarily when it boils away, but this might be rubbish. we have very soft water where I live, so no direct experience.

                    That makes sense as the bicarbonates (temporary hardness) precipitate out as carbonate below boiling point whilst the chlorides (permanent hardness) aren't deposited until the water is boiled off. (Round here the water is so hard it must be chewed before swallowing).

                    Brian

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