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Making small Wheels

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  • #389773
    Adrian Harrison
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      @adrianharrison27934

      I have a small RC Model that I would like to make some aluminum wheels for..
      the original plastic wheels have a 2mm hole in the middle that has a flat spot so its a D shape for mounting and taking the drive..
      what would be the best way to make this D shaped hole?

      #16054
      Adrian Harrison
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        @adrianharrison27934

        Making small Wheels

        #389776
        Paul Lousick
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          @paullousick59116

          A photo would be helpful, otherwise you will get lots of replies that would not be suitable for your application.

          #389777
          not done it yet
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            @notdoneityet

            Most small metal pulleys (probably mostly larger than this) simply use a grub screw through the wheel flange to bear on the flat. Think here meccano to about 75mm diameter low power motor pulleys. Wheels are about the same sort of thing as pulleys?

            #389778
            Nicholas Farr
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              @nicholasfarr14254

              Hi Adrian, a couple of ways shown in this tread, **LINK** but it will be a bit fiddley at 2mm.

              Regards Nick.

              #389779
              Adrian Harrison
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                @adrianharrison27934

                this is the best picture i can find losi wheels.jpg

                #389780
                Adrian Harrison
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                  @adrianharrison27934
                  Posted by Nicholas Farr on 07/01/2019 05:49:59:

                  Hi Adrian, a couple of ways shown in this tread, **LINK** but it will be a bit fiddley at 2mm.

                  Regards Nick.

                  Thanks Nick I will look at the link now

                  #389786
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    Make a small broach and drive that through an undersize hole

                    #389790
                    Nicholas Farr
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                      @nicholasfarr14254

                      Hi Jason, I like that idea. thumbs up

                      Regards Nick.

                      Edited By Nicholas Farr on 07/01/2019 07:25:50

                      #389803
                      Mick B1
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                        @mickb1
                        Posted by JasonB on 07/01/2019 07:02:12:

                        Make a small broach and drive that through an undersize hole

                        When I've thunk that thought in the past, I've doubted that it would work because of the asymmetric side-forces on the broach messing up the concentricity.

                        From the pics of your swarf, it looks as if it works pretty well. Thanks, I'll file that for future ref! smiley

                        #389804
                        JasonB
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                          @jasonb

                          Mick, it did wander off slightly so best to do the broaching first and mount on an arbor to complete.

                          Having said that it was only a quickly knocked up broach to see if it would work and I just squeezed it in with the bench vice, a better made one and some care ensuring it is true when pressed would give better results. It came out so well I did not bother with a better version just use the test piece.

                          #389809
                          David Jupp
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                            @davidjupp51506

                            If mounted on a steel axle, an aluminium wheel will be prone to fretting if there is even the slightest relative movement possible. I think I'd be tempted to also use a drop of Loctite (or similar) to prevent that.

                            #389931
                            Adrian Harrison
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                              @adrianharrison27934
                              Posted by David Jupp on 07/01/2019 09:53:25:

                              If mounted on a steel axle, an aluminium wheel will be prone to fretting if there is even the slightest relative movement possible. I think I'd be tempted to also use a drop of Loctite (or similar) to prevent that.

                              I seam what you mean and yes that would be a good idea

                              #389932
                              Adrian Harrison
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                                @adrianharrison27934
                                Posted by JasonB on 07/01/2019 07:02:12:

                                Make a small broach and drive that through an undersize hole

                                I can see that working seeing as i would be driving the broach into aluminum.. thank you for sharing the idea

                                #389933
                                Jeff Dayman
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                                  @jeffdayman43397

                                  Another possible way to do a driving flat in pic below.

                                  EDM is another option if you know someone with a machine, or if you know a mouldmaker.

                                  drive-flat-idea.jpg

                                  #389936
                                  Adrian Harrison
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                                    @adrianharrison27934
                                    Posted by Jeff Dayman on 08/01/2019 04:06:40:

                                    Another possible way to do a driving flat in pic below.

                                    EDM is another option if you know someone with a machine, or if you know a mouldmaker.

                                    drive-flat-idea.jpg

                                    That is also a good idea.. I think i could use a washer behind the wheel to keep the insert from falling out

                                    #389942
                                    JasonB
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                                      @jasonb

                                      Jeff where do you get those 0.15mm diameter screws from as the axle on the "toy" car is only 2.0mm diasmile p

                                      Even if you could do it that way it would spoil the Bling effect of the alloy wheels.

                                      #389947
                                      JasonB
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                                        @jasonb

                                        Another option may be to just put a 2mm hole right through then cross drill 1.6mm to meet the 2mm hole. Part tap that M2 and then make a small steel screw with 1.6mm plain end and M2 thread with a screwdriver slot in the end.

                                        wheel losi.jpg

                                        Slip the wheel onto the stub axle, start the screw then put a small amount of Loctite onto the thread before screwing in until it just nips the flat of the axle. once the Loctite has dried you can slide the wheel on and off as needed with a fitted tyre, pin will stop it rotating.

                                        wheel 2.jpg

                                        #390112
                                        Adrian Harrison
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                                          @adrianharrison27934

                                          That's also a good idea and probably the easiest to accomplish I should think

                                          #390394
                                          Neil Wyatt
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                                            @neilwyatt

                                            Another way might be to drill an offset hole for a small peg using an end mill, if made a close push fit should be enough to prevent rotation.

                                            Neil

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