hallam engine

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

The more I see of this the more it seems like an owner has modded it to suit their own application.

Certainly very interesting!

Maybe it reminds me of my childhood, watching men launch rather large IC powered flimsy looking (free flight I think) planes at Epsom Downs, then riding their pedal cycles trying to keep up as they flew off into the distance.

 

Edited By V8Eng on 30/01/2014 19:35:56

[thomas oliver 2Participant @thomasoliver2]

This engine is definitely a Hallam Nipper 1942 as shown by the angled webs and the split crankcase. The 10cc models had a one piece crankcase as shown in Mike Clanfords book. Hallams also made a 13cc model and a 5cc. twin. Their drawings were rubbish and inaccurate and the castings poor.

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

hi again lads

v8 you could be right as the man who had it was in to stuart turner`s and rail stock ,thomas any idea if it is 10cc or 13 cc as i dont have a clue ,

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

i have also got model engineer in book form from july 7 1949 to dec 29 1949 some great engines in it if there are any you are looking for please just let me know as i will take pics and send them on

yours

p.j.

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

i have just found this

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

its called a super 9

"There was something strange here that needed further investigation, but in the meantime it was back to the ‘mystery motor’. What was clear was that it was not a large hydro motor, and from the various features that it definitely was a Hallam, but not one in any of the usual reference books. It was not a ‘Hallam 10’ as it had conventional mounting lugs. It looked similar to a Series III Nipper in many respects, but was too big, as a vernier dropped down the plug hole confirmed. The only clue was a note that the Nipper Series III had been produced in a larger version called the Super Nine. Here we were stuck until the late Mike Beech came to the rescue. Mike was incredibly knowledgeable about the products of the company from Poole and recognised the motor as a Super Nine, which was only produced for about a year around 1947, and only available as a factory produced unit. This was somewhat unusual, as much of Hallam’s production was castings and kits for home building"

Found this onthewire site dont know if this is one of them

yours

p.j.

Edited By JasonB on 31/01/2014 07:21:54

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Note for our ever-helpful Moderators

[at least on my iPad] … P.J.'s last post has the "Text Under Adverts Syndrome" … which I haven't seen for a while.

Could someone please correct this?

MichaelG.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Is that Better? Quote had been pasted in some sort of text box.

J

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

hi

thank you both for sorting out that text thing . it was the only way i could get that quote on for you all to see

yours

p.j.

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

hi again

dont know if anyone can confirm whether this is a super 9 ?

yours

p.j.

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

hi dose anyone know anything about the super 9 ?

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

hi again

seems like everyone has left this item not sure whats going on

yours

p.j.

[thomas oliver 2Participant @thomasoliver2]

The Nipper was 5.4cc. The factory produced the carb intake cast in with the tank top. Your tank/carb is not to the factories usual design, and probably made to the makers own design. Clanfords book says the Super nine was an enlarged Nipper Series 111 which did not have the split crankcase cylinder layout. They made a 7,5cc with external holding down cylinder studs and a the 13cc with a similar arrangement but it and the 7.5cc had a plain cylinder head top with no radial fins,

My 10cc Hallam measures 1.625ins across the fins, and my 5.6cc Mechanair ( about the same size as a Nipper) is only 1.25ins across the fins. The later Nippers were a one piece casting. The 13cc had a had two split castings.

[Ramon WilsonParticipant @ramonwilson3]

Hullo Thomas – Just thought you might like to know that with all this latest on 'Hallams' I got your drawing out only yesterday and have begun to make a set of drawings to have a go at making one from scratch as originally intended. The crankcase is drawn and I think with a couple of small allowances I should be able to machine it from solid. It'll be a while as yet before machining as there are several other matters pending but I'll keep you posted.

Regards – Ramon

[p j riordanParticipant @pjriordan89154]

hi thomas

if you have a look at the car pic above ,i think the carb is the same as my one as to the fins i will measure them and get back as soon as poss .

yours

p.j.

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