There's also the excellent Engineers Black Book which is stuffed with info.

Otley

PDF download rather defeats the purpose of a Zeus book. Its whole raison d'être is that its pretty much mark prof and fits in the top pocket of your overalls and is always to hand.

PDF printouts on grubby paper just don't hack it.

There are far better compendiums to use as a main data source on the computer or as printed out pages for what you need right now.

If you want to build up a reasonably compact, mark proof, compendium to keep on the bench I suggest an A5 loose leaf folder filled with transparent wallets to hold the data printouts. Not too big to open on the bench and, unlike a conventional book, it stays open when left. Alternatively you can get spiral wire bound "books" full of transparent wallets which are, maybe, better but somewhat spendy. Way back I took Howard Halls data sheets out of MEW, clipped them in half and slipped into transparent wallets filling a pair of cheap A5 twin ring binders binders out of Woolworths. Look good, work well but I've pretty much never used them in anger. Got other ways that do me just fine. Old dawg, new tricks 'n all that.

As I've mentioned before its way past time this copyright and internet business was sorted with effective file tracking so copyright holders get paid and universally low download pricing so folk can hoover up what they want without feeling guilty. Do the maths. The actual information, intellectual property and whatever in the book has always been near valueless. What you pay for is the cost of making the book and getting it out into you hot little hands.

Clive.

Edited By Clive Foster on 28/07/2018 11:03:51

Is this any good Otley?

**LINK**

Dormer also do a handy app for the iPad if you have one.

Just ordered 2nd edition black book, prices are crazy, on the" Warrior woman" website 80 odd and one 189 quids, found same book on our favourite auction site for just over £20, guess which copy I bought

Mick

The charts I attached in the thread called "Model Engineering Threads" can be printed 'cos they are 300dpi. It contains exactly the data you need.

Hi, the Counsellor download in this **LINK** may be of interest, it is a bit more British and it has B.A. threads in it.

Regards Nick.

P.S. Didn't notice Bob D had already mentioned it.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 29/07/2018 07:14:56

After reading this thread I ordered the 'black book' and it arrived today. I must say what a gem of a book so much more than the Zeus even if some of the writing is on the edge of my vision focus. Definitely a worthwhile buy.