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    Speedy Builder5
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      @speedybuilder5

      I need to drill some deep holes in Al Alloy (I don’t know the specs, but it machines really nice).  The holes are 3.5mm diameter by 75mm deep.  I can drill from each side. Once drilled, I need to transfer the position of the holes and  tap into a second component.

      What is the best way to prevent wander.

      Does the the drill speed faster or slower help ?

      Bob

      #857485
      renardiere7
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        @renardiere7

        Mill or Lathe?

        #857488
        Speedy Builder5
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          @speedybuilder5

          mill/drill, lathe.

          #857489
          JasonB
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            @jasonb

            I’m not a fan of marking out so would locate the three holes on the face that will mate to the tapped part by finding edges and then use the millshandwheels or DRO to position. Start with a spot drill (ctr drill if you want). Then a stub drill which is nice and stiff to get teh hole started true. Then jobber length and probably have to finish with a long series drill. just drill from that one end.

            Somewhere around 2000rpm, paraffin or WD40, peck drill and clear the swarf often. Should not need to say sharp well ground drills.

            I also don’t much care for spotting through hole positions so again would us eedge finders and then set the position of the tapped holes with the mill.

            #857491
            Diogenes
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              @diogenes

              Use the correct speed for a 3.5 drill in Ali, failing that the highest available.

              start with a stub drill, then a jobber, and or a long series if required.

              clear the chips often – very often, as you get deeper (peck 1D and then clear) and let the drill do the cutting.

              Use bright drills if you have them and use paraffin / diesel / wd40 for lubricant

              #857492
              Huub
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                @huub

                In short, prevent the drill from bending, start at the exact center of the hole drill from both sides if possible.

                That results in:

                To much tool pressure will bend the drill so very modest tool pressure.
                Good chip evacuation is an absolute must. So peck drilling is needed.
                Start using a center drill.
                After that use a smaller size drill (3 mm) the shortest you can get.
                Drill the hole to just over half the depth, each time using a longer drill.
                Bring the hole to diameter using the same procedure
                Finish the hole using a reamer preferably from one side only.

                An end mill is often more rigid than a drill. Start drilling using a drill and bring the hole to diameter using an end mill is also possible. 4 Flute end mills have a larger core diameter than 2 flute end mills and are more rigid. So the 4 flute end mill is better.

                Whatever you do, it is quit a challenge.

                 

                #857494
                howardb
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                  @howardb
                  On Speedy Builder5 Said:

                  I need to drill some deep holes in Al Alloy (I don’t know the specs, but it machines really nice).  The holes are 3.5mm diameter by 75mm deep.  I can drill from each side. Once drilled, I need to transfer the position of the holes and  tap into a second component.

                  What is the best way to prevent wander.

                  Does the the drill speed faster or slower help ?

                  Bob

                  Use a new long series drill of known decent make.

                  Centre drill the location or use a spotting drill.

                  About 2000 rpm with minimal feed, peck it every 2-3 mm with WD40 as lube, clear the flutes with a small brush, blow out the hole with comp air, more WD40 down the hole, then back down the hole again with the drill, rinse and repeat, be patient, don’t try to rush it.

                  Try the speed out on an offcut if possible first, if the metal welds to the drill, cut the speed down.

                   

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