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  • #7112
    Dean Jeffery 1
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      @deanjeffery1

      what lathe

      #149234
      Dean Jeffery 1
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        @deanjeffery1

        Hi

        I have a machining background and would like to get myself a bench lathe, this would be used for model making/modding only.
        The mini lathes I don’t think would be suitable, was looking at warco site at the WM280 and toolco for the simlar lathe.
        Now I understand with little research I’ve done these are not hardcore machines for production work, but I would be making a few parts the same with a few thou tolerance max.
        My main question is really what would be the safe max cut in steel, say 4inch dia.
        I don’t want to be taking a few thou cuts and spending hrs turning down steel. All though the main material would be alloy, would also like to machine gears. But a miller maybe the best option here later on.

        Thanks.

        #149262
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          I've had teh 280VF for almost 5 years now and it will take a 0.050" cut off 4" bar. You do loose a little bit of torque when you go to 9-10" work such as flywheels where you need to keep the cut around 0.025" but it snot often you need to use the machine to these max sizes.

          The newest 280 lathes have Inverters rather than the DC motor on the older ones like mine so you may not have the problem on the large diameters.

          Think this was a 20thou cut on a 10.2" iron flywheel

          #149265
          Nobby
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            @nobby

            HI Dean
            Welcome to this forum . I would go for a Myford Super Seven  photo showing That's parting off  2" diameter mild steel I can take 50 thou cuts or more  with no problems .  Ally for you would be a easy . you can get attachments for gear cutting 

            Nobbyparting off

            Edited By Nobby on 08/04/2014 17:18:49

            Edited By Nobby on 08/04/2014 17:26:10

            #149266
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt

              My mini lathe will cut 1.5mm at 3" dia… Struggles with a 2mm cut (belt slip). But it is fitted with a 0.4 HP 3-phase motor.

              Neil

              #149267
              Dean Jeffery 1
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                @deanjeffery1

                Cheers jason

                Thats a nice lump you have in their, way over the top dia wise for what I’d be machining.
                Just wanted to know the machines limits really, don’t want to hammer the crap out of 1 when clearly not designed for heavy cuts.
                Be save to say a 3-4 cut would be save then.

                #149268
                Dean Jeffery 1
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                  @deanjeffery1

                  Cheers guys cant keep up lol, myford was and still maybe an option. Just don’t want to pay X amount just for the name.

                  #149315
                  Dean Jeffery 1
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                    @deanjeffery1

                    These are the myfords I was lookin at, both looking in good condition. Just want to see whats best for the money, new Wm280 or the toolco version or a used myford.
                    item number on ebay 181370468179
                    360894044842

                    Cheers

                    #149316
                    Thor 🇳🇴
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                      @thor

                      Hi Dean,

                      One of the Myfords (the cheapest) is a ML 10, you don't think it will be too small? If the ML7 is in good condition you will get a good lathe that will serve you for a long time. My experience is, get a bigger lathe, but one you still can get into your workshop (and afford). I own a 290F lathe, similar to Jason's but with a bigger bore.

                      Thor

                      Edited By Thor on 09/04/2014 08:13:00

                      #149320
                      Dean Jeffery 1
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                        @deanjeffery1

                        Cheers thor

                        I didn’t notice this on the myford, Regaurding the Wm290 this is the same has the 1130GV toolco version minus the DRO. With the DRO it’s a little more at the mo than I’m willing to spend, planned on ?1500 tops but the DRO will prob be an option later on.
                        There’s that many lathes now to choose from and I don’t want to just go out and buy 1 to find its not met my requirements.

                        Space is no problem once it’s in the work shop, (garage) but getting it there would need hand balling.

                        Cheers

                        #149322
                        Ady1
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                          @ady1

                          The old Drummonds are good solid machines, the M series was probbly the best hobbyist size machine

                          http://www.lathes.co.uk/drummond/

                           

                          Edited By Ady1 on 09/04/2014 09:24:57

                          #149328
                          Nobby
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                            @nobby

                            One like this maybe. some mods I made to it mainly small top slide,X  slide & added a  motor . Great for model making 
                            & it  can take a fare cut .  Still got original pedal and X slide etc 
                            Nobby
                            drummond

                            Edited By Nobby on 09/04/2014 10:25:33

                            #149332
                            Anonymous

                              Depth of cut on its own is somewhat irrelevant, without a discussion of feedrate and spindle speed. At its most basic, metal removal rate is roughly proportional to power at the spindle (not necessarily the same thing as the motor placard). More power equals a faster removal rate. A rough rule of thumb is that 1 horsepower will remove 1 cubic inch per minute in low carbon steel.

                              How that rate is achieved by juggling speed, doc and feedrate is another matter. It will depend on the rigidity of the workpiece, the rigidity of the lathe and the type of tooling used among other things.

                              Andrew

                              #149424
                              Dean Jeffery 1
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                                @deanjeffery1

                                Cheers fot all your input guys, minimum would be power feed on the slide, ideally cross feed has well. I now there manuals but want a decent evan cut.

                                Cheers

                                #149426
                                Involute Curve
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                                  @involutecurve

                                  If room is no problem why not a Harrison either L5 or 140, good solid machine, easily converted to single phase, although inverters are relatively cheap now, within your price range and it will hold its value.
                                  Myford's are a good machine but way too small and under powered, and before I get hung for knocking the god of lathes, and yes I know Fred made a full size loco wheel to a tolerance of 0.000000001 on one last week, but Freds my next door neighbour, and I've told him a million times to stop exaggerating. lol

                                  #149430
                                  Dean Jeffery 1
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                                    @deanjeffery1

                                    I like the looks of the 140, space is no issue once I get the lathe to the garage.
                                    But that must weigh a good half tonne, so getting this down the side of my house would prove abit difficult.
                                    The side of my house has a concrete post, slab wooden fence then the house. So only big enough for 1 bloke either side to hand ball the machine, clearly can be done but it’s also 2 steps.
                                    1 140 on ebay looks ok also 1 L5.

                                    Cheers

                                    #149431
                                    Involute Curve
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                                      @involutecurve

                                      I've had several Harrisons over the years (and a Myford) the Harrisons are pretty much bullet proof, and they have a gap which I find useful, I move mine away from the wall every few months on a pallet truck to clean the suds tank, but its easily moved on rods weights about 600kg

                                      Check out lathes.co.uk to find out all you need

                                      #149436
                                      Dean Jeffery 1
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                                        @deanjeffery1

                                        Cheers for the info

                                        Looking on the lathes site the 140 on ebay is different

                                        #149663
                                        Dean Jeffery 1
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                                          @deanjeffery1

                                          Well guys just been to look at the myford from a bloke at work, ML7 only wants ?300 for it and has a few good upgrades and comes with all the tools I would need carbide tipped has well.
                                          Everything works has it should, nice and smooth think its a barging TBH.

                                          Cheers

                                          Edited By Dean Jeffery 1 on 12/04/2014 11:43:33

                                          Edited By Dean Jeffery 1 on 12/04/2014 11:43:56

                                          #149664
                                          RJW
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                                            @rjw

                                            Could I advise some caution is exercised, that when removing the lathe you avoid taking the chap’s arm with it ;>))
                                            John.

                                            #149665
                                            Dean Jeffery 1
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                                              @deanjeffery1

                                              RJW ??

                                              #149669
                                              RJW
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                                                @rjw

                                                At that price if the lathe is as good and as well equipped as you say it is, I’m surprised you haven’t snatched his arm off in the rush to take it ….. or perhaps I’m just one of a dying breed of dinosaurs that remembers sayings like that!!
                                                John.

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