#3-48 on Elmers drawings – is this a standard pitch M3 die.

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    Chris machin
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      Hi , just after a bit of info :

      Got to turn a 3/32 brass rod with #3-48 threads on either end. Do i use a standard pitch M3 die nut for this and what size do i turn the end of the rod to before running the die down it ? The material is brass.

      Thanks for any help….Chris.

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      Chris machin
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        #93037
        Engine Builder
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          @enginebuilder

          I would use 3/32 x 40 ME thead. The one specified is American coarse thread .099 dia. 48tpi.

          No need to turn down to size.

          Whoops , just realised there is no 3/32 ME thread, go for 7BA.

          Edited By Engine Builder on 24/06/2012 22:22:37

          #93042
          Trevor Drabble 1
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            Chris,

            I believe you will find that this is a USA standard thread, a No3 x 48TPI UNC. As Engine Builder says, it would normally have a basic major dia of 0.0990, so 3/32 rod at 0.0938 is theoretically a little undersized, but you should get away with it. Tracey Tools ( no connection ) do a range of suitable UNC taps and split dies, with the carbon versions costing very little. For your information, die nuts are not meant for creating threads since they cannot be adjusted like a split die for fit, have less hook on the teeth as well as thicker legs. For these reasons, they are intended for cleaning worn or damaged threads only.

            Regarding an M3 thread, this would normally have a basic major dia. of 3 mm ( 0.1181), thus making it unsuitable in this application.

            Also, as stated, whilst there is no 3/32" ME thread, there is a 3/32" BSW x 48 TPI thread, which co-incidently has a basic major dia. of 0.0938, ie exactly the same as your rod, and again Tracey Tools have these available for relatively low cost.

            I hope you will find the above info of interest.

            Trevor.

            #93047
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              Chris have a look at this table that I made up for when I'm working on US designed hit & miss engines. Gives the nearest equivalent in BA & metric. Click to get it bigger.

              Revised thread conversion

               

              If you are building in metric then M2.5 is the one, 7ba if using BA

               

              J

              Edited By JasonB on 25/06/2012 07:24:38

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              Chris machin
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                @chrismachin

                Once again , thanks everyone for taking the time to help – much clearer now.

                Much appreciated

                Chris.smiley

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