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    steelaxlebox
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      I have a 16oz injector which feeds perfectly at about 10psi below boiler pressure and downwards but won't pick up at boiler pressure (90psi) and just sends water through the overflow. At the last day out on Sunday some advice was to move the steam cone outwards and from others to move it inwards. Quite a conflict! Is it to do with the steam cone or something more deep seated? It's a Gordon Chiverton (sadly late) one. Thanks.

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      steelaxlebox
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        #188613
        Halton Tank
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          @haltontank

          The way I understand it the pressure range works is determined by the diameter of the cones. I used to have an injector that would work only below 60 psi. I took my injector apart and gave it a good pickle in citric acid and now will work upto 85-90psi. It would seem that limescale had built up in the injector cones reducing the diameter, thus the working pressure. Since the I always given my injectors a pickle after use as I live in a hard water area.

          I would suggest you take your injector apart (making sure which cone is which the combining won't come out so don't try) and give it a good pickle.

          Regards Luigi

           

          Edited By Halton Tank on 04/05/2015 18:56:38

          #188628
          julian atkins
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            @julianatkins58923

            hi steelaxlebox,

            the 'text book' diagnosis is that the steam cone is too big in throat size for the working pressure of the loco…

            however, water coming out of the overflow suggests instead that your steam injector valve and perhaps pipework as well from same to the injector is restricted. gordon's injectors were excellent and were all tested.

            a restricted steam valve/bad pipework would produce the symptoms youhave found.

            whilst the pressure range can be altered by altering the position of the steam cone, the better way round this is to make a new steam cone of smaller throat size.

            however as stated above i doubt this is the problem. gordon's injectors will usually feed at way above working pressure.

            also check very carefully no air leaks on the water supply side as gordon's injectors have quite a strong suction/lift on the water side.

            if the pipework and valves – water and steam, and check valves are not ok this restricts the operating range of the injector.

            cheers,

            julian

            #188690
            steelaxlebox
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              @steelaxlebox

              Thank you for your thoughts Luigi and Julian. I cleaned both injectors carefully before the run last Sunday and following Julian's suggestion re-checked the inlet pipework/valves but found nothing untoward. I have Gordon's injectors fitted to my other locos built over the last many years and have, I suppose, been 'feather-bedded' inasmuch as they have all just operated excellently and I haven't had to give a lot of thought about boiler feeding. The pair in question are possibly amongst the last made by Gordon. I have always dealt with him directly and have had many interesting chats with him about what you can and shouldn't do. I did call to ask him about the problem I had but he said that his failing health had caused him to abandon his business. It's the fact that they operate like all my other ones between 50 to 80 psi – they snap on and off and the overflow is dry – but at 90 (I've re-checked the gauge) a very wet overflow and a smidgeon into the boiler.

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              julian atkins
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                steelaxlebox,

                ive sent you a PM

                cheers,

                julian

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