Please help me to identify this Colchester lathe

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30 March 2018 at 15:23 #348138
choochoo_baloo
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A local electronics workshop was looking to clear out a couple of machine tools before Christmas, fortunately the manager sold them to me at a reasonable price – knowing they'd be going to a good home – before a trader swept in. Hence I had little time to do any detailed research on the model/features etc.

I know round head Colchesters in good knick, are well worth hanging on to. No paperwork came with it.

Therefore please can someone confirm whether this is the Master Mk1?

Secondly, is this style of collet the correct fit for this model since the seller and I aren't sure!!

(image taken from this fleabay auction: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Colchester-Master-collet-chuck-and-assorted-collets/292498379255?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50427%26meid%3D1840c4187eb04781ae2b6aea631025ed%26pid%3D100678%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D292498379255%26itm%3D292498379255&_trksid=p2481888.c100678.m3607&_trkparms=pageci%3Afe34cbcd-3424-11e8-8df9-74dbd1809eb6%7Cparentrq%3A7744ad111620a8845999abd3fffb29ab%7Ciid%3A1)

Thanks in advance.
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30 March 2018 at 15:23 #13183
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30 March 2018 at 15:32 #348139
Brian Sweeting 2
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Looks like a mk.1.

See here

http://www.lathes.co.uk/colchester/page2.html

**LINK**
30 March 2018 at 15:39 #348140
choochoo_baloo
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Posted by Brian Sweeting on 30/03/2018 15:32:51:

Looks like a mk.1.

See here

http://www.lathes.co.uk/colchester/page2.html

**LINK*

Thanks Brian. I did skim those webpages. But I found it hard to discriminate between the Master Mk1 and Student Mk1 – is it simply a longer bed?
30 March 2018 at 16:22 #348147
Ian Parkin
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A student should be 6” CH a master should be 6.5” CH

Having said that apparently colchester made most students 6.5” without changing the badge which states 6”

Masters were always 40 “ Between centres rather than 24 for the student

Its also a mk1 as it has the sliding handle for cross and longtidunal feed

Mk 1.5 ‘s have a lifting knob and a separate knob to cross and long

Mk 2 would be square head
30 March 2018 at 16:28 #348148
Ian Parkin
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That collet set and chuck is good for that lathe

Its a bernerd multisize set on a LO taper fitting
30 March 2018 at 22:32 #348203
Brian Sweeting 2
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Posted by choochoo_baloo on 30/03/2018 15:39:13:

Thanks Brian. I did skim those webpages. But I found it hard to discriminate between the Master Mk1 and Student Mk1 – is it simply a longer bed?

I couldn't see the gearbox lever on the mk.2.
31 March 2018 at 07:46 #348220
sean logie
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Looks just like the one at my work ,and it's a Colchester Triumph 71/2 .Great machine .

Sean
31 March 2018 at 08:17 #348224
Nicholas Farr
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Hi, below are scans of ads for a Student, Triumph and a Master.

I think you have the Master.

Regards Nick.
1 April 2018 at 15:49 #348413
thaiguzzi
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I also thought Students had the apron hand wheel on the left and the Masters on the right?

My Student was 24" between Centres and my Master 36". 6 and 6.5" centre heights.

The Triumph was always the Biggie.
1 April 2018 at 16:22 #348415
Ian Parkin
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Hand wheels depend on whether a gap bed or not same on both models
4 April 2018 at 01:05 #348729
choochoo_baloo
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Thanks all for the input. I agree it has to be the Mk1 Master.
4 April 2018 at 06:20 #348733
thaiguzzi
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Posted by Ian Parkin on 01/04/2018 16:22:22:

Hand wheels depend on whether a gap bed or not same on both models

That would explain my straight bed Student having a L/H apron hand wheel and my gap bed Master having a R/H apron hand wheel….

Always preferred the L/H handwheel, seemed in the "proper" place…
13 August 2019 at 14:13 #423939
Tim Russell 1
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Guys, I've just posted a "Help Me Identify" request. It all sounds similar to this but without the cabinet base. Perhaps someone could assist, thanks.
14 August 2019 at 14:41 #424138
Tim Russell 1
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Received a data pack from Tony G, all is revealed thanks.
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