Windows 10 forced upgrade

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Mark – look HERE

My wife has it on her pc – works OK – she upgraded from Win 8.

I had Win 7 but have since ( due to constant harassment from my kids and grandkids) converted to Apple !

Norman

 

Edited By NJH on 27/07/2016 14:29:24

[VicParticipant @vic]

Posted by NJH on 27/07/2016 14:28:28:

I had Win 7 but have since ( due to constant harassment from my kids and grandkids) converted to Apple !

Norman

Good Man, you know it makes sense!

[SandgrounderParticipant @sandgrounder]

Posted by Mark P. on 27/07/2016 14:14:06:
What has W10 got to offer over W7?
Mark P.

Support, I believe Microsoft ended mainstream support for W7 last year and will end extended support in 2020 so you are becoming more vulnerable to attack.

John

[Anthony KnightsParticipant @anthonyknights16741]

You don't suffer attacks if you don't go on line with unsupported versions of windows, I use several older versions of windows to run various programs, but use Linux to go on line. It can be slightly inconvenient if I need to transfer downloads, but memory sticks (aka thumb drives) are wonderful things.

[SandgrounderParticipant @sandgrounder]

Posted by Anthony Knights on 28/07/2016 07:58:26:

You don't suffer attacks if you don't go on line with unsupported versions of windows, I use several older versions of windows to run various programs, but use Linux to go on line. It can be slightly inconvenient if I need to transfer downloads, but memory sticks (aka thumb drives) are wonderful things.

That's almost exactly what I do, I have an old XP machine which runs Autocad and Inventor and is never connected to the internet, 99.9% of my internet use is on my Linux PC which I've had for 3 years, but for the odd program which needs Windows such as my Garmin map updates I have bought a second hand W10 laptop which runs fine, I've never had Vista, W7 or W8.

John

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Contrary to common belief, security updates are still available for XP. Apart from that, I still have an XP machine (or two) that are set up for special purposes which I use to go on line sometimes without feeling paranoid about it. I take the usual reasonable precautions (flash, java, javascript only on demand; a healthily large hosts file etc) which I take on all my machines regardless of OS. Apart from that, the XP installations are sufficiently unchanging that I can have a full image backup of the installation including the apps I want. If it did get compromised I'd just restore one of those. Hasn't happened yet.

I don't mess around with usb drives or linux. The XP machines are hooked into my LAN so any data is accessible.

[VicParticipant @vic]

I've never actually liked any version of Windows but must say that XP was the most productive version I've used. Luckily I'm retired now so don't have to use any of Microsofts stuff.

[SandgrounderParticipant @sandgrounder]

Posted by Bandersnatch on 28/07/2016 15:09:06:

I don't mess around with usb drives or linux. The XP machines are hooked into my LAN so any data is accessible.

I don't think you'll find many people mess around with Linux, they use it because they think it's better than Windows.

John

[VicParticipant @vic]

I got the impression that folks liked Linux because it was faster than Windows and less likely to be attacked by malware and viruses etc?

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Mark P. on 27/07/2016 14:14:06:
What has W10 got to offer over W7?
Mark P.

"cryptoviral ransomeware"

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

The idea of not being able to turn Cortana off has finally decided me. Mr Gates can keep his free upgrade, and when he stops supporting W7 I'll go to Linux on anything that connects to the web. I'm already running it on my laptop and it seems fine

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Duncan I have turned Cortana off No problem  I've had one or two hang ups but a restart has cured that

Roy

Edited By roy entwistle on 28/07/2016 18:19:54

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by Sandgrounder on 28/07/2016 16:48:03:

I don't think you'll find many people mess around with Linux, they use it because they think it's better than Windows.

I'm not particularly against (or for) Linux. It's the stoopid "my OS is better than your OS" knee-jerk stuff that keeps arising here and elsewhere that I find tedious.

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by duncan webster on 28/07/2016 17:59:40:

The idea of not being able to turn Cortana off has finally decided me.

Duncan, go here and it will tell you how to turn off Cortana plus a whole bunch of other stuff that you really don't want.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I haven't switched Cortana on, but it seems easy enough to turn it on and off?

<edit> It's not as though Microsoft make it hard…

Just type 'cortana settings' into search, choose 'cortana settings' from the results and slide the cortana switch to 'off'.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 28/07/2016 19:39:40

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Isn't a Cortina a bit old hat now ?

Even Neil has got a Mondayo

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

According to a press report even if you manage to turn it off , every time Mr Gates sends one of his compulsory updates he will turn it back on. I can't be doing with that.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by duncan webster on 28/07/2016 21:57:56:

I can't be doing with that.

.

Well said, Duncan

That short comment sums up the whole situation as far as I'm concerned.

MichaelG.

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by duncan webster on 28/07/2016 21:57:56:

According to a press report even if you manage to turn it off , every time Mr Gates sends one of his compulsory updates he will turn it back on. I can't be doing with that.

I think I'll reserve judgement on that. There doesn't seem to be any logic in it to me. It's not something they can sneak in without anyone noticing and all it will do is p**s off everybody who has it turned off. And at what benefit to MS? None that I can see. And it's not a security issue where MS can convince themselves (and try to convince us) that they are protecting us from ourselves and the whole world along with us.

Press reports aren't always the most reliable. It hasn't happened to me yet (on my one rarely used laptop machine that I've upgraded experimentally).

[FarmboyParticipant @farmboy]

My experience for what it's worth:

After a year with Windows 10 which I upgraded from 7 there has only been one major version update which reset some of my privacy settings; the routine updates don't generally do so. I only use the basic OS with all the "kids' toys" turned off, and so far it appears to be a very stable system. Any problems have usually turned out to be due to third party software I've installed.

If all I did was browse the web and use basic office software I would most likely switch permanently to Linux, which I also use, but I need to use some programs which are Windows specific.

If you search the internet you can find "facts" to support any prejudice you may have; your own experience is the best guide.

[NJHParticipant @njh]

"If you search the internet you can find "facts" to support any prejudice you may have; your own experience is the best guide."

Wise words indeed!

Norman

Edited By NJH on 29/07/2016 10:29:47

[Roger Provins 2Participant @rogerprovins2]

Posted by Farmboy on 29/07/2016 09:05:11:…….If all I did was browse the web and use basic office software I would most likely switch permanently to Linux, which I also use, but I need to use some programs which are Windows specific…..

Been using Linux of various distros for many years. I too have a couple of programs that are unique and I need but are only available written for Windows. I've found that, with a little configuring, they both run satisfactorily either in a DOS or WINE emulator or a Windows Virtual Machine.

Whether it's worth it or not is of course another matter.

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Duncan Cortana has never come back on mine

Roy

[VicParticipant @vic]

Duncan Cortana. Who could come up with a name like that! Sorry, I'll get my coat …

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by John Stevenson on 28/07/2016 19:56:35:

Isn't a Cortina a bit old hat now ?

Even Neil has got a Mondayo

When I heard of cortana I thought that's curtains for Microsoft.

Coming round to duff you up now

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