Warco WM18 has arrived

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by petro1head on 09/03/2017 09:57:20:

Crumbs, you must have patience of a saint

Tell me about it. I've prioritised my jobs, and sorting the workshop has to wait, probably until around June-July, so not far off now .

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by ChrisB on 09/03/2017 12:03:40:

Following this thread with interest, I'm after a WM18 and from what I gathered I think I'll go for it. Would you mind if I asked you to measure the base attachment holes for me, diameter and distance apart? As I'll be shipping it and a lathe abroad I'm thinking of making the stands myself.

Bit hard to measure with the bolts in place but approximately:

[petro1headParticipant @petro1head]

Posted by ChrisB on 09/03/2017 12:03:40:

Would you mind if I asked you to measure the base attachment holes for me, diameter and distance apart?

I can however now that the machine is on the stand the measurement will not be that accurate. Probably better to phone Warco as they have new stands in stock now and will a more accurate measurement with nothing on it.

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

Thanks for that, it will do for now. I only need to get an idea of where the holes are so I can some up with a design for the stand ( I'm doing a combined bench for the WM18 and WM280). I'll pick the exact hole positions when I have the machinery delivered.

Thanks again and sorry for the hijack

[petro1headParticipant @petro1head]

I have fitted an angel eye light to help with illumination. I was sourced frp, a car shop on ebay and is 12v. Its powered off an old 240-12v power supply I had lying around. The fit is perfect gripping the underneath of the head very well after a little bit of sanding,

This is what the angel eye looks like

Fitted to the mill

Lights on

Illumination on the bed

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Nice, I suppose your big light is now redundant,

George.

[petro1headParticipant @petro1head]

Not sure yet, need to try it in anger

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

You can never have enough light on a mill. I once made my living as a "Die Miller" in the Injection mould trade, first thing we did with a new machine was to fit extra lights.

[Brian AbbottParticipant @brianabbott67793]

Hello petro1head..

Can i ask how you are getting on with the WM18 power feed ?

Thinking of getting one and wanted your opinion.

Thanks..

[petro1headParticipant @petro1head]

Its great. Very easy to use and the ability to fast forward or reverse at the touch of a button

One thing, well centainly for me, if going forward do not switch is straight into reverse. It trips my RCD.

[Brian AbbottParticipant @brianabbott67793]

Thanks for the reply.

Expensive but looks very handy, ok, will have a think

Cheers.

[Ross Lloyd 1Participant @rosslloyd1]

Hi PetrolHead

Sorry to dig up an oooold thread, but did you by any chance write down the dimensions of the crate when it arrived? I am trying to figure out if one will go through my back gate!

Cheers

[petro1headParticipant @petro1head]

Funnily enough, no.

However one of the photos shows it near to a wheely bin. Sure you can work it out front that though

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Why not ask Warco? They are very helpful and would be able to give fairly precise dimensions, I would have thought.

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

The WM18 comes in a crate on a pallet measuring 142cmx80cmx82cm, weighing 255kg.

[Ross Lloyd 1Participant @rosslloyd1]

Posted by ChrisB on 13/02/2018 18:17:12:

The WM18 comes in a crate on a pallet measuring 142cmx80cmx82cm, weighing 255kg.

Cheers Chris, so the pallet is 80 x 82? That should fit through my gate nicely!

255kg … Its a hefty bit of machinery for sure

[Ross Lloyd 1Participant @rosslloyd1]

Posted by petro1head on 13/02/2018 15:49:18:

Funnily enough, no.

However one of the photos shows it near to a wheely bin. Sure you can work it out front that though

Cheers, the pictures are great

Edited By Ross Lloyd 1 on 14/02/2018 16:05:00

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

Yep, that's right. I still have the pallet somewhere, can measure it for you tomorrow. The dimensions are that warco gave me when I asked them for shipping purposes, did not weigh the mill but on the chain block it felt substantially heavier than the WM280 lathe.

[Ross Lloyd 1Participant @rosslloyd1]

Posted by ChrisB on 14/02/2018 16:22:57:

Yep, that's right. I still have the pallet somewhere, can measure it for you tomorrow. The dimensions are that warco gave me when I asked them for shipping purposes, did not weigh the mill but on the chain block it felt substantially heavier than the WM280 lathe.

I am getting a 250 and a WM18, and hoping the pump truck will make it all the way down our concrete path to the workshop with both. The 250 is much lighter than the WM18 but more of an awkward shape. Once the crates are in the workshop am going to hire an engine hoist to get them up on the bench. Hopefully wont end up with any missing limbs by the end!

How are you finding the 280? That's a lot of lathe Any top tips for a new Warco owner of either lathe or mill flavours?

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

When I got mine, the truck could only deliver to the curb side, my workshop is a basement garage, and access to it is through a steepish ramp, but with the help of a palletizer we managed quite easily. For lifting the machines I used  a 1ton chain block, the benches have caster wheels so I can move them around.

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=129962&p=2

No problems with the lathe so far, I only have them since last summer, very happy with it. Have not used the mill much as I only got proper cutters and a vice a couple of weeks ago. What I'll need for sure is a dro.

[Ross Lloyd 1Participant @rosslloyd1]

Posted by ChrisB on 14/02/2018 20:27:18:

When I got mine, the truck could only deliver to the curb side, my workshop is a basement garage, and access to it is through a steepish ramp, but with the help of a palletizer we managed quite easily. For lifting the machines I used a 1ton chain block, the benches have caster wheels so I can move them around.

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=129962&p=2

No problems with the lathe so far, I only have them since last summer, very happy with it. Have not used the mill much as I only got proper cutters and a vice a couple of weeks ago. What I'll need for sure is a dro.

Hm that's a shame about only to the curbside. Some other folks said they wheeled it all the way into their back gardens, even depalletised it. Guess its a case of which guy you get and how he's feeling that day.

Yeah I fancy a DRO, but gona see how I go at first without. I also have my eyes on CNC at some point

[VicParticipant @vic]

Dave delivered my VMC and wheeled it straight into my garage and took it off the pallet. Great service, I even made him a cup of tea for his help!

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

Erm, I have to clarify! I had the machines exported so I couldn't expect poor Dave to come over to Malta and wheel it down the driveway! ​

That said the transport service I used did help me with moving the machines into the workshop, btw I measured the pallet the mill came on, its a EUR pallet, so that's 80x120cm. The mill sat in a crate with a slightly smaller base, 70x100cm

[petro1headParticipant @petro1head]

Just a point. The Mill is much easier to move than the lathe as it can be stripped down into more parts.

I ended up removing the table, head and column

Edited By petro1head on 15/02/2018 10:16:21

[Ross Lloyd 1Participant @rosslloyd1]

Posted by petro1head on 15/02/2018 10:07:37:

Just a point. The Mill is much easier to move than the lathe as it can be stripped down into more parts.

I ended up removing the table, head and column

Edited By petro1head on 15/02/2018 10:16:21

Ah good point. I have heard about a process called "tramming" from US sources that seems to follow a mill strip down. Did you need to do this setup process after dismantling? That was making me leery of taking it to bits

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