The wonders of AI…

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I had guessed that much, Paul

… I was just attempting to continue the conversation.

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

It does very-much depend upon how one asks the questions, Paul

Please try asking these, in turn

ISO 12181-1 : 2011

 

and what does -2 cover, please

I have only used information of which you were already aware, so it’s not cheating

MichaelG.

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

The lesson would be to use as nearly as possible the original publisher (the ISO in this case), although in many techncial fields that is hindered by sheer cost.

UK organisations like the BSI have presumably been ordered to stand on their own two feet commercially; but have a comparatively limited market of principally, government departments, companies and academic institutions for whom the cost does matter but is comparatively low, even an investment.

It is worse still for scientific journals as many of the leading ones have been taken over by big publishing firms who erect very hard and very costly barriers. These have been known to obstruct even authors trying to read their own papers in the original journals!

I fear a lot of people becoming horribly unstuck by thinking AI magically, automatically all correct all the time. Well, even the brightest humans with RI can make mistakes, so why should AI be any more reliable? Being really a glorified, high-powered filter and text-matcher, if it picks up the wrong stuff or misinterprets the right stuff it can only relay the wrong stuff.

 

If the originator of standards or other technical material is accessible without a mortage, surely that should be the first choice?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

[Paul LParticipant @paull58212]

I agree Nigel.

The current AI models only know what they have been taught. ChatGPT 4 (the current public one) stoped its training last July, I believe. Ask it who the 47th president of the USA is…..

AGI is what all these are working toward, some say that could hapen in 10 years others think up to 50  years.One thing is for certain new AI models will change the way we do things in coming times

Edited to add.

GPT 4.0 stopped learning  (training) in Sept. 21,

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I’ve been pondering this “Intelligence” description … and I think I’ve realised what the problem is:

We tend to think of it as Intellect, but in this case it’s really being used in the CIA sense … Intelligence is gathered !

Having played with ChatGPT for a few hours now, I am starting to think of it as being like a friendly and efficient Librarian … who doesn’t know everything, but has the ability to find stuff.

The old GIGO thing is very evident by its corollary

Ask it better questions and you get better answers

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Not quite an AI issue … but near enough:

https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/national/three-people-nearly-drowned-in-morecambe-bay-after-relying-on-tidal-app-4971660

MichaelG.

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A spokesman for Bay Search and Rescue said: “Three people were cut off waist deep in Silverdale today (Sunday) in a huge fast moving 10m tide, having trusted an internet tidal app for Silverdale.

Unfortunately this app gave the location for Silverdale Portland USA but did not state that, only when we questioned the latitude and longitude did the location become clear, but by then it was too late they were waist deep in a fast moving tide.

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

[Paul LParticipant @paull58212]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Are you surprised, Paul ?

One of the first few questions I asked was:

how do you differ from Google’s AI Assistant

MichaelG.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

This morning’s conversation started with me asking:

“Man, the tool-maker “ has created Artificial Intelligence … please discuss, and tell me how you think this will develop.

… I was quite impressed by the response from ChatGPT

So I followed with:

I have come to see it as a friendly and efficient Librarian, who has rapid access to the sum of our published knowledge.

and I think even Alan Turing would be impressed by its conversational style.

MichaelG.

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

If you’re using the app version of ChatGPT it doesn’t seem to update automatically.  I uninstalled the app and then installed it again from Google Playstore. That gave me the version that searches the web for latest information.  It also gives references to where it has found the information so that you can decide how much weight to give the answers.

Russell

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