Shop made Knurling Tool

[VicParticipant @vic]

I noticed on another thread that other folks have also made their own shop made Knurling tools so I thought this thread might be a nice reference for anyone thinking of making their own as well. So, post of pictures of your shop made knurlers here if you like. This is my effort.

[VicParticipant @vic]

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Just in case anyone is likely to be put off by sophistication and fine finish. This one had given about ten year's good service before it was adapted to fit my QCTP. Capacity about 1".

Neil

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

I made this one..**LINK**

Simple enough, rigid etc. I'll try to take and upload a pic but with rural internet speeds….

[Involute CurveParticipant @involutecurve]

I made this as an apprentice, must have been used thousands of times over the years…..

 

Edited By Involute Curve on 19/11/2015 17:40:07

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Don't laugh but here's mine.

 

 

Looks weird but it's a cut knurling tool for straight knurls, cut knurling tools for diamond knurls have straight wheels.

Yes I know doesn't make sense but it's the geometry and the action.

 

This one get some serious action when doing straight knurls on motor shafts which have to be dead straight. In the first picture there are two vertical jacking screws that allow you to twist the main spindle carrying the wheel and by this action you can 'steer' it.

 

Works very well and being a cutting action you don't need the pressures that are normal with crush type tools.

When doing steel I run at about 350 revs and a feed of "Jesus H Christ with a Bridgeport – that was fast "

 

This is what you get.

 

 

So it's not all about looking pretty. 

 

 

 

 

Edited By John Stevenson on 19/11/2015 18:40:46

[Involute CurveParticipant @involutecurve]

John, Do you have drawings for this cut knurl tool?

Shaun

[Thor 🇳🇴Participant @thor]

Here is the knurking tool I made years ago, it has served me well.

Thor

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Finally managed to get pics of mine to upload:

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by Involute Curve on 19/11/2015 18:48:04:

John, Do you have drawings for this cut knurl tool?

Shaun

Sorry no, I never used any, it was a weld it where it touches exercise [ as usual ]

I could get some principle dimensions but all that is really needed is to get the centre of the leading edge of the wheel on the centre hight of the machine and get the angle right so that the teeth are horizontal.

Away tomorrow and over the weekend but could strip it on Monday and get some better photos so you can see the build up.

[Roger HeadParticipant @rogerhead16992]

JS – I'm not laughing. That's the same action/geometry as in the Quick range of knurlers, but at about 1/1000th of the cost. I've watched these in use (the 2-wheel types), and marvel at the beautifully clean cuts they make.

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"Yes I know doesn't make sense but it's the geometry and the action."

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Sometimes I think I have it straight in my head, then I start to question myself, and it becomes a circle. The 2-wheel types also have the wheel axes angled forward as well as up/down. Please share if you have any good descriptions of the action.

Is yours a LH or RH tool? Reason I ask is because Quick's typical illustrations of their single-wheel products have the wheel canted in the opposite direction, and as most manufacturers typically show their RH products, well…

[Gary WoodingParticipant @garywooding25363]

Here's mine that I made years ago. I did an article about it in MEW #72.

an example of output

Edited By Gary Wooding on 20/11/2015 07:16:34

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I hope all these different approaches encourage beginners to devise their own solution, as the likelihood of success is high and that's a great encouragement to tackling other projects.

One thing we haven't discussed here that beginners need to know, is the need for the spindles to be able to cope with the high loads and hard steel of the knurling rollers. I've made mine from phosphor bronze, and I know others have used hardened and tempered silver steel or hardened dowel pins.

Neil

[VicParticipant @vic]

Some great Knurling tools here folks. Don't be shy if anyone else has made one, keep the pictures coming!

Edited By Vic on 20/11/2015 10:31:54

[Involute CurveParticipant @involutecurve]

Posted by John Stevenson on 20/11/2015 00:17:22:

Posted by Involute Curve on 19/11/2015 18:48:04:

John, Do you have drawings for this cut knurl tool?

Shaun

Sorry no, I never used any, it was a weld it where it touches exercise [ as usual ]

I could get some principle dimensions but all that is really needed is to get the centre of the leading edge of the wheel on the centre hight of the machine and get the angle right so that the teeth are horizontal.

Away tomorrow and over the weekend but could strip it on Monday and get some better photos so you can see the build up.

JS, you take the pics and Ill create a 3D model and send a .step and .iges files to Neil it can then be downloaded by whoever wants it.

Shaun

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Hi Shaun,

Not sure I can host those types of file here Very limited files types only.

Neil

[Involute CurveParticipant @involutecurve]

We can sort it, I could host it on my site if necessary.

Shaun

[clivelParticipant @clivel]

Posted by Roger Head on 20/11/2015 00:29:29:

Sometimes I think I have it straight in my head, then I start to question myself, and it becomes a circle. The 2-wheel types also have the wheel axes angled forward as well as up/down. Please share if you have any good descriptions of the action.

The Aug/Sept 1991 issue of MEW carries on page 42 a design by Allan Mackintosh for a two wheel "Quick" knurling tool, however It is not quite as straight forward as JohnS's single wheel design pictured earlier in this thread.

Clive

[Roger HeadParticipant @rogerhead16992]

Thanks for that Clive. Unfortunately I didn't get into this hobby until 2003, so I only have MEW from #79 onward. I'm in Perth, Western Australia, so my options for accessing a copy are somewhat limited. Besides being Aug/Sept 1991, is there an associated issue # ? It may help in an internet search.

Thanks, Roger

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

JS – presumably in your second photo, the work comes in from the right, keeping the knurl against the holder? Neat concept that I haven't seen before.

Presumably the adjustment of the 2 grub screws is very critical / sensitive to getting the knurls nicely parallel to the axis?

Murray

[Clive FosterParticipant @clivefoster55965]

The three wheel "nutcracker" type knurling tool puts much less stress on the machine than the conventional type as the crushing force is applied by squeezing the handles.

Not quite on topic as mine is a commercial one but a contructional article by R.V.Howis for an essentially identical device with minor simplifications to assist home shop manufacture was published in Model Engineer 29 th January 1999. If I hadn't already got mine I'd have made it having used one at work and found it good. Mine came for free out of a tool dealers scrap bin. Spotted when buying a big Pollard drill.

Works well on most materials although I imagine some of the harder steels might cause problems. Technique is pretty simple but there is a slight knack to picking up a proper diamond knurl due to there being two wheels of the same hand. Basically don't be shy. Get everything moving with the wheels lightly in contact then squeeze fast and hard. Apply a little tilt force, but don't actually tilt it, if you see what I mean, to run from side to side when the knurl is longer than the width of the wheels. Keep running and squeezing until a nce clean knurl of the right depth is needed. I've never bothered with the calculate theoretical depth nonsense.

Clive.

[clivelParticipant @clivel]

Posted by Roger Head on 20/11/2015 23:36:29:

Thanks for that Clive. Unfortunately I didn't get into this hobby until 2003, so I only have MEW from #79 onward. I'm in Perth, Western Australia, so my options for accessing a copy are somewhat limited. Besides being Aug/Sept 1991, is there an associated issue # ? It may help in an internet search.

Thanks, Roger

Hi Roger,
MEW was only numbered from around issue 12. I think that the Aug/Sept 1991 issue was the 6th published.

Issue #166 (Aug 2010) carries an article by Dave Fenner with the another 2 wheel 'Quick' design. This seems a little more complicated to make than the earlier one. The article also includes photographs of a commercial 'Quick' tool. Credit for the photos go to none other than JohnS.

It would be interesting to know what advantage if any, the 2-wheel has over the single wheel tool. If John has used both styles, he may be the best person to answer.

Clive

[Roger HeadParticipant @rogerhead16992]

Clive, it's obviously not my day. #166 is one of five issues that newsagents have 'forgotten' to save for me over the last 12 years. I did find an article by Dave Fenner in #147, in which JohnS's single-wheel device made an appearance.

To answer Murray's question – yes, in #147 it appears that the wheel is leading towards the chuck.

"what advantage if any, the 2-wheel has over the single wheel tool" – don't you need two for diamond knurling?

Roger

[VicParticipant @vic]

That cut Knurling tool is worth a separate thread if you fancy doing a write up John.

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

Vic, put Knurling in the search box, you'll find a thread on cut knurling amoung over twenty threads on knurling.

Ian S C

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