ML10 Hammered Paint

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

I have now got my ML10 set up correctly and it is a joy to use, having had very little previous use. The only niggling thing is that the previous owner had a penchant for putting dings in the paintwork! I find these blemishes irritating although in the big picture they are unimportant.

Does anyone know a source for the paint used by Myford? It is the hammered battleship grey colour that I am looking for. A search for the correct colour has proved fruitless. Hammerite is too light in shade and all the other hammered paint I could find was significantly different in shade.

Andrew.

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

I do not know anything about Myford paint. Hammerite can be mixed tho', black and white hammerite can be mixed to give different greys, I used to do it to get a galvanised looking finish. I believe the paint has changed so might not work the same.

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi Andrew, FWIW the correct colour code for 'Myford Grey' is RAL 7100. I personally hate the hammered finish and have never thought it was original and have gone for plain grey which I get mixed at my local piant store for about £11 a litre as opposed to the 125ml tins from Myford at God knows how much! Looks great.

Regards,

Martin

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

There is a UK ebay seller that it might be worth asking. Search military paint. hammer

But it sounds like Myford may have it.

John

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[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

Hello Martin,

As far as I know, the original ML10s were shipped with a hammered green paint finish. The latter ones were shipped with the dark grey hammered finish. I don't think Myford did any special finishes for the ML10, unlike the ML7.

Gordon, thanks for the mixing tip. I was going to give that a try, if I could not find the correct colour. From what I have seen of Myford's prices, I doubt I will be buying a small quantity of paint for hugely inflated prices! Especially as I have Hammerite grey and black hammered paints.

Thanks,

Andrew.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Andrew,

Gordon's comment, about Hammerite having changed, is very pertinent.

I'm almost sure that ML10s will have been painted with 'original' Hammerite … Touch-up with the modern version may not go well.

MichaelG.

[Matt CParticipant @mattc]

Hi Andrew,

Any use?

There are several Myford colours listed.

https://www.paragonpaints.co.uk/Workshop-Machinery-Colours.html

Matt

[Matt CParticipant @mattc]

Sorry me again.

This thread has more information.

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=120576

Llots more info if you search this forum Keyword 'paint', all posts.

My local branch of Adam Cane/Brewers can mix Johnston's metal paint to any standard colour. I recently got a very close match to Record vice blue.

Matt

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

Hello Matt,

A useful reference to Paragon paints, I will need to repaint my refurbished ML7, but sadly nothing for the grey ML10 finish

The Myford ML10 paint isn't the old Hammerite grey paint either. I have some from 1970 and also painted surfaces from the same date. The ML10 paint is darker than either old or new Hammerite.

Thanks,

Andrew.

P.S. I am looking up the old ME references right now.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Andrew,

This very brief previous thread may be of interest: **LINK**

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=88165

Yes, I do realise that he's talking about the Green paint … but it's a start.

MichaelG.

[RobboParticipant @robbo]

I have found most of the "greys" are described as silver grey.

Coo-Var Hammercote (rawlinspaints.com) list a Dark Grey hammer finish, but even this may not be dark enough for the ML10.

[Dave SpringateParticipant @davespringate]

Hi,

I've just bitten the bullet and ordered some of the Dark Grey Coo-Var Hammercote. Next day service saw it arrive today and I'm quite pleased with the match. Please see the photo of my headstock casting below. I thought it best to paint a bit in a not too visible location to try it out. The red circled area is the new paint and if anything is a little darker than the original but that could be that the original paint has lightened up a bit over the years.

[Kiwi BlokeParticipant @kiwibloke62605]

Well, it seems that I've come to the party, fashionably late… FWIW, here's an answer, of sorts, to the original post.

For the green Sevens, Myford used Trimite 2-pack polyurethane. Nasty stuff, because of isocyanates, and I don't think Joe Public could get the stuff easily (safety gnomes at work). When I toured the factory in the '90s, I possibly also saw 10s being painted, but I can't remember noticing the paint used.

I had some things professionally painted hammered silver-grey, and IIRC, that was Trimite too. I've a nasty feeling that Trimite is no more. Perhaps a name change?

I always found Hammerite to be a disappointment. Ghastly to apply by brush, poisonous to spray, and spraying never seemed to result in anything resembling a proper hammered finish. Also, it was brittle and not at all durable. I can't believe Myford would have used it.

Rustoleum do/did rattle-cans of hammered finish paint. A thread elsewhere said that a green ('olive green'?) was a reasonable match for Emco's original Unimat green. Sadly, as far as NZ is concerned, that colour seems to be locally known as Unobtainium. Bother!

[Chris TriceParticipant @christrice43267]

Trimite are alive and well but their range has evolved.

https://www.trimite.com

[RedsetterParticipant @redsetter]

Early ML10s were a grey hammered finish and later ones were a light green hammered finish.

Currently readily available in UK and on ebay – "Paint Factory direct to metal hammered effect grey" in aerosol cans is a very good match for the ML10 grey.

[John Paton 1Participant @johnpaton1]

Posted by Dave Springate on 19/02/2019 15:30:25:

Hi,

I've just bitten the bullet and ordered some of the Dark Grey Coo-Var Hammercote. Next day service saw it arrive today and I'm quite pleased with the match. Please see the photo of my headstock casting below. I thought it best to paint a bit in a not too visible location to try it out. The red circled area is the new paint and if anything is a little darker than the original but that could be that the original paint has lightened up a bit over the years.

well done – That looks like a good match to me – with a couple of years exposure to suds, oil and sunlight I suspect the new paint will 'yellow down ' to an almost exact match. To do better I suspect you will need to repaint the whole thing.

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