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  • #301476
    Bernard Greatrix
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      Hi Guys,

      Amonst my late fathers "junk" I've found a tin containing numerous milling cutters. Unfortunately all but one are heavily rusted due to years of damp. One, however, wrapped in wax paper survived, stained but still sharp.

      see below

      imgp0704.jpg

      I'm curious to know what it might have fitted as I've been unable to identify the taper (per Machinery Handbook).

      As I don't have a milling machine I propose to bore a matching taper into a piece of 3/4" bar then after pulling the cutter firmly into the adapter machine the whole beween centres so that I can use it in a 3 jaw chuck

       

      Comments would be welcomed

       

      regards

      Bernard

      Edited By Bernard Greatrix on 06/06/2017 19:27:28

      #18541
      Bernard Greatrix
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        @bernardgreatrix61453
        #301485
        Muzzer
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          @muzzer

          Are you sure it isn't just Morse taper? Perhaps #1?

          Murray

          #301522
          Bernard Greatrix
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            @bernardgreatrix61453

            Hi Murray,

            The first thing I did was to try it in my wood lathe which is MT1.

            I rattled, in that the narrow part never made contact with the sides before the thick end made contact

            ie I think the taper is too blunt for it to be a morse taper.

            regards

            Bernard

            #301951
            Bernard Greatrix
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              @bernardgreatrix61453

              Hi all,

              I descided I could spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find out what the taper was, when all I wanted to do was use the cutter.

              So, plan B, bore a tapered hole to match the taper and lock the cutter into it.

              Mount between centres and true up the outside.

              Job done – works lijke a dream

              B

              imgp0707.jpg

              #302067
              mechman48
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                @mechman48

                Simple but effective… my motto… KISS … Keep It Simple Stupid … not meant to be a derogatory remark by the way face 20 well done.

                George.

                #302095
                Tony Pratt 1
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                  Posted by mechman48 on 11/06/2017 10:56:06:

                  Simple but effective… my motto… KISS … Keep It Simple Stupid … not meant to be a derogatory remark by the way face 20 well done.

                  George

                  .

                  Anyone know why its not just KIS, 'keep it simple' that makes total sense but the 'stupid' bit, I don't get it.

                  Tony

                  #302098
                  SillyOldDuffer
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                    @sillyoldduffer
                    Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 11/06/2017 16:25:44:

                    Posted by mechman48 on 11/06/2017 10:56:06:

                    Simple but effective… my motto… KISS … Keep It Simple Stupid … not meant to be a derogatory remark by the way face 20 well done.

                    George

                    .

                    Anyone know why its not just KIS, 'keep it simple' that makes total sense but the 'stupid' bit, I don't get it.

                    Tony

                    It's because it's the clever chaps who are most likely to over-complicate matters. The 'stupid' is to remind them that they ain't as smart as they think they are.

                    #302105
                    Clive Hartland
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                      @clivehartland94829

                      Maybe it is, 'Keep it simple and Stupid'. Dealing with the lowest denominator present. It is after all an acronym.

                      Clive

                      PS, I might add, 'Keep it soldier proof'.

                      Edited By Clive Hartland on 11/06/2017 18:19:31

                      #302106
                      not done it yet
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                        @notdoneityet

                        Yanks often say "keep it simple, Sugar". You choose your acronym conversion. When teaching I use "keep it simple, Sir" as an alternative to the "stupid".

                        #302112
                        mechman48
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                          @mechman48

                          Ho Hum; make of it what you will chaps,

                          … It's because it's the clever chaps who are most likely to over-complicate matters. The 'stupid' is to remind them that they ain't as smart as they think they are…

                          ​… is about the nearest definition of it for me… I've worked with many an 'Engineer', as will have many members, who have produced designs etc that when applied to site wouldn't work… 'this won't go into there… that won't fit the way it's drawn etc… & so amended drawings appear & the oxy/acetylene gear comes out, hence my usage of the acronym, so ….

                          George.

                          #302126
                          Bernard Greatrix
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                            @bernardgreatrix61453

                            An interesting group of replies. I once worked for an American Company, so KISS and the non-politically correct FUBAR were quite common.

                            I'm reminded of a poster I saw once upon a time which featured numerous weird bolts made to fit 'odd' holes.

                            None of which were remotely plausible.

                            I've now managed to mill a 1/2" slot across a piece of mild steel. I have no use for the slot – the whole exercise is part of a learning curve of what I can do with a small lathe.

                            regards

                            Bernard

                            #302143
                            Bernard Greatrix
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                              @bernardgreatrix61453

                              Found the poster :-

                              newbolt.jpg

                              This or very similar was on the maintainance department wall and apprentices were sent to the stores for one off the list, often to be obtained together with a long stand

                              Enjoy

                              Bernard

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