Lathe Mill Combo setup

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

Okay I removed the top slide and this is what I found.

I couldnt get any part to match with.

So that would mean there has to be some sort of top plate between the two. Would I need to drill some holes in the myford one to match the holes revealed in the cross slide that has the screws in them.

And thanks Clive for the detailed information on height measurement.

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Yes. I would hazard a guess that you pull out those four allen-key grubscrews shown in your pic in the cross slide and use those four threaded holes to hold down a T-slot plate. Yes you would have to drill four matching holes through a Myford or generic T slot plate for bolts to pass through.

Or you could probably use a piece of 13mm flat plate etc drilled for those four holes. Then take the two spigots off the bottom of the vice that look like they stick down into T slots. Then just drill and tap holes in the flat plate wherever you want to mount the vice.

Edited By Hopper on 29/04/2019 07:41:19

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

have you seen this post ?

**LINK**

And probably look for something like this to bolt onto your cross slide (Crossslide ???)

**LINK**

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

Yes I found the bearing replacement one today.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Whereabouts are you located?

If there is a Model Engineering Club / Society anywhere within a reasonable distance of you, go and join it.

You will get lots of practical help from the members, to explain what each part of your machine does, and how to get your machine up and running.

Howard

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

Hi I'm in New Zealand and have had a look at the local model train engineers club online. But first I contacted the seller and he is going to find out if the original owner has the missing parts as he had it from new. Will see what happens as its a great machine with lots of potential. And there has been lots of great advice from here. Just got to read up my textbooks and manuals and practice on the lathe part.

Cheers.

Owen.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Hi Owen, looks like you bought a nice little machine there, when you get it up and running I'd love to see some more of it, looks like it's had minimal use and no abuse.

when I bought my lathe, I knew nothing about them really, just wanted a 'bench top mini lathe' ending up buying what I think is an Emco clone of some description 9×20 with screw cutting gearbox, made in Taiwan, hardened bed, hardly any use, much nicer than the generic Chinese mini lathes, didn't know this when I bought it, just pure luck.

[John OlsenParticipant @johnolsen79199]

Hi Owen,

There are other Kiwis on here, including myself. Quite possibly there might be someone near you…I would be happy to come and look at things with you if you are within a reasonable distance. Other than that, I agree with the suggestion to get a good book and have a read about things. The local library might even be able to find you something suitable. It does look like quite a good machine to have. Combined machines can be a bit of a pain, since if you want to turn something, it will be set up for milling, and vice versa of course. However, for starting out when you cannot afford both they can be very good.

John, in sunny Cambridge

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

Thanks John I bought a batch of workshop practice series books and downloaded the Lathe text from this site.

I'm actually not to far from you as I'm in Hamilton, at present I'm waiting to hear back from the firm that sold it to me as to the likelihood of getting the missing parts.

Cheers

Owen.

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

Well good news the previous owner has found the table and according to him you take the toolpost off the saddle and the table bolts down there.

Cheers

Owen.

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Great result. It pays to ask! You might ask if he has the T bolts and clamping kit etc to go with it.

Edited By Hopper on 02/05/2019 09:16:44

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

Fingers crossed about getting all the bits Owen, from another Kiwi just a bit west of Christchurch.

Ian S C

[LathejackParticipant @lathejack]

I remember this same machine being offered here in the UK by Chester Machine Tools about 20 years ago or more. It isn't a clone of the Emco Super 11, although the Far East do make a lathe closely based on the Super 11 which is listed as the South Bend Heavy 10 on the Grizzly website.

Chester Machine Tools called their version of Owens machine the Champion lathe, and I think the lathe on its own was around £600 back then if I remember correctly. The milling head is the same as that on Chesters old Champion milling machine with a 4 speed belt drive, round column and a tilting head operated by a gear and cranking handle. I can recall visiting a Model Engineering Exibition all those years ago, at Donnington I think, and Chester had the lathe on display fitted with the Champion milling head just like Owens.

I remember the lathe is a little unusual in having a single vee and flat guideway shared by the saddle and tailstock, and the deep bed casting is the same depth from end to end with no space or reduction in depth between the mounting feet, so it should be quite ridged for its size.

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

"Great result. It pays to ask! You might ask if he has the T bolts and clamping kit etc to go with it."

Oh No. I didn't think to ask if there was more than the table missing. It sounds like the owner sold this lathe and moved house losing the table in the process.

Looking at my lathe diagram I see the saddle is right on the lathe bed and the tool post is on the top slide which is on the cross slide which is on the saddle. Wouldn't that lose one axis of movement and leave only left and right movement or would it be more likely to come off the cross slide like we talked about earlier and fit in the grubber screw holes?

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Not sure I totally understand your question, but usually the top slide is removed for milling and the job is clamped to the cross slide, or in this case to the slotted plate bolted to the cross slide. Left to right movement (X) is usually then done by turning the leadscrew by a handwheel, which moves the carriage along the bed. In/out movement (Y) is provided by the cross slide. Vertical movement (Z) in your case will be the raising and lowering of the vertical milling attachment's head or spindle.

[Owen SParticipant @owens]

OK I was trying to understand if there was another moving part missing as if I remove everything to the saddle there would need to be another Y moving handwheel and wondered if the guy had meant cross slide not saddle as the base for the milling table. As I had taken a picture of the cross slide earlier, it was also working out what other parts were needed to successfully use the table.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

It would be normal to expect the Cross Slide to carry a Topslide, which can be swivelled when there is a need to turn a short taper, such as a chamfer. The Cross Slide will be graduated so that the Top Slide can be set at the angle that you require. This will probably go from the central Zero (where the Top Slide movement is parallel to the lathe axis ) to about 45 degrees each side of this Zero position.

But in this case, you cannjot be sure of what the previous owner (s) might have done, or why!

H T H

Howard

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