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    Michael Gilligan
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      Posted by Ketan Swali on 27/02/2019 13:41:47:

      Posted by Michael Gilligan on 26/02/2019 13:54:59:

      1. Cost of outsourced manufacture is higher that it could be, due to that 'badge engineering'
      2. BeanCounter realises that the cost of the bought-in item could be reduced, by just taking the Vanilla version. … No harm done; it's the same product.
      3. … until someone takes the next step, and the quality starts to decline.

      MichaelG.

      Hi Michael,

      I am a little unsure about where you are coming from with reference to this topic.

      .

      Ketan,

      I note that in quoting my post, my points 4,5,6 have been re-numbered 1,2,3 … but that's of no great concern.

      Where I was coming from was an attempt to explain [to Dave S.O.D.] my remark about the 'bean-counter' … my six steps were a 'timeline' which potentially ends with the situation that you describe:

      Having 'sold his soul to the devil' … our heroic bean-counter then realises that a few more coppers could be saved by buying-in something a little worse and a little cheaper.

      MichaelG.

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      #398126
      Ketan Swali
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        @ketanswali79440
        Posted by Chris Trice on 27/02/2019 14:07:27:

        Let's put it this way. I paid 3 times what you charge for the same arbor so if it came from the same production line, I might feel some frustration.

        Ah…um…agreed.

        Ketan at ARC.

        #398127
        Ketan Swali
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          @ketanswali79440

          Ketan,

          I note that in quoting my post, my points 4,5,6 have been re-numbered 1,2,3 … but that's of no great concern.

          Where I was coming from was an attempt to explain [to Dave S.O.D.] my remark about the 'bean-counter' … my six steps were a 'timeline' which potentially ends with the situation that you describe:

          Having 'sold his soul to the devil' … our heroic bean-counter then realises that a few more coppers could be saved by buying-in something a little worse and a little cheaper.

          MichaelG.

          Understood, thanks,

          Ketan at ARC

          #398128
          Neil Wyatt
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            @neilwyatt
            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 27/02/2019 07:16:16:

            Posted by Neil Wyatt on 26/02/2019 23:33:06:

            Quite possibly the arbor in question is supplied both as Rohm and made available to others via the Weida side of the venture.

            .

            Forgive my mild confusion … it's a little early and I have not yet topped-up my caffeine level:

            Which is 'the arbor in question' ?

            • the 'Rohm' supplied to Chris, or
            • the 'Jacobs' supplied to John,
            • … or both ?

            MichaelG.

            The one that the thread was originally about. A jacob's fit arbor ostensibly made by Rohm. The clue was that my post was all about Rohm

            #398129
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt
              Posted by Chris Trice on 27/02/2019 14:07:27:

              Let's put it this way. I paid 3 times what you charge for the same arbor so if it came from the same production line, I might feel some frustration.

              Perhaps in this case "Quality remains long after the price is forgotten"

              #398130
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133
                Posted by Neil Wyatt on 27/02/2019 14:25:23:

                Posted by Michael Gilligan on 27/02/2019 07:16:16:

                Posted by Neil Wyatt on 26/02/2019 23:33:06:

                Quite possibly the arbor in question is supplied both as Rohm and made available to others via the Weida side of the venture.

                .

                Forgive my mild confusion … it's a little early and I have not yet topped-up my caffeine level:

                Which is 'the arbor in question' ?

                • the 'Rohm' supplied to Chris, or
                • the 'Jacobs' supplied to John,
                • … or both ?

                MichaelG.

                The one that the thread was originally about. A jacob's fit arbor ostensibly made by Rohm. The clue was that my post was all about Rohm

                .

                But that IS NOT what the thread was originally about … Chris joined-in, because he had a similar [not identical] experience to John.

                • John bought a 'genuine' Jacobs item
                • Chris bought a 'genuine' Rohm item

                MichaelG

                Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/02/2019 14:35:32

                #398131
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  Here is one I hoarded earlier:

                  jacobs .jpg

                  #398132
                  Ketan Swali
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                    @ketanswali79440
                    Posted by Michael Gilligan on 27/02/2019 15:28:14:

                    Here is one I hoarded earlier:

                    jacobs .jpg

                    Suits you Sir smiley

                    Ketan at ARC

                    #398158
                    Chris Trice
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                      @christrice43267

                      A 1/2" chuck on a 1MT arbor? That's bold. I hope the tailstock barrel is near perfect.

                      #398159
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133
                        Posted by Chris Trice on 27/02/2019 19:00:27:

                        A 1/2" chuck on a 1MT arbor? That's bold. I hope the tailstock barrel is near perfect.

                        .

                        That just happens to be what I acquired, Chris

                        … I have no intention of using them as a pair !!

                        MichaelG.

                        #398162
                        John Hall 7
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                          @johnhall7

                          RDG sell these together….

                          #398164
                          Chris Trice
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                            @christrice43267

                            I didn't seriously think you would. Mind you I have seen it. A friend of mine many years ago had a Myford ML2 with a 1MT tailstock and a 1/8" to 5/8" Jacob's chuck hanging off it.

                            Sometimes less is more.

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