Identification Please, anyone!

[Noel RieussetParticipant @noelrieusset48142]

It does not have a name stamp, perhaps it came with a milling machine.
This is what I have
What I know is it came from the then "West Germany"
It was owned by an Instrument Maker / Toolmaker now deceased.
The only stamping is the number 618 shown in the photo.
I believe it is old but don’t know how old.
The black round handle and crank handle are black bakalite.

When was bakalite last used????
The table is 280 mm in diameter. with 4 x 4 slots 14 mm.

The wheel and pinion are hardened and ground and sit in an oil bath, the level of which is indicated by a glass tube sight glass.

All screws are machine cut, as are all the screw slots which are milled.

The filler cap screw has a tiny air hole and is a beautiful piece of engineering.

A number 3 Morse (I think) taper in the center.

The graduations are cut, and numbers are all stamped.

The dial on the winder is in three sections of 0 to 100.

The ratio of the table is 120 : 1

Small parts Nickel plated

The only thing missing is the "0" or verier scale, I do not know which, but because of the length of the area where it was (See photo) I think it may hace been a vernier scale.

Words on the bakelite handle are "NICAFIL 1761/1" very small about 1 mm high.

Any clue at all would be great please.

[Noel RieussetParticipant @noelrieusset48142]

[Tim StevensParticipant @timstevens64731]

Bakelite is still used. The recipe has been tweaked over the years, but for things like electric junction boxes, plugs, etc, which need to be rigid not flexible and fairly heatproof, it is still a common choice. Think of car distributors, too.

It can help when dating stuff to look for chromium plate – introduced about 1929. That said, nickel was still in use for engineering (rather than outside) stuff until much more recently. But I can't see any of either of these … However, as a different clue, West Germany did not exist until just after WW2, and went back to Germany about 1990.

What you have looks to me like a quality product, perhaps intended originally as an 'extra' for a specific milling machine. There are alternative tapers which you should investigate (such as Brown & Sharpe, common with US stuff), before you invest in further tooling to use with it.

Not much help, really, am I?

Regards, Tim

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

Perhaps from Hoffman, the coolant lip looks familiar.

Emgee

Edited By Emgee on 13/11/2017 18:43:17

[mark smith 20Participant @marksmith20]

I think it is a Schaublin, if so it will be nice . The style and handle is instantly recognisable.

heres its smaller brother:

 

Edited By mark smith 20 on 13/11/2017 19:14:53

Edited By mark smith 20 on 13/11/2017 19:17:56

[larry PhelanParticipant @larryphelan54019]

Not sure what it is,but it looks like a nice bit of equipment, better than most of the crap on offer these days.

[vintagengineerParticipant @vintagengineer]

It looks very much like a Deckel rotary table for a Deckel milling machine. Will also fit an Alexander mill. Are you selling it ?

The number stamped on it will match the number of the mill it came from.

[BikepeteParticipant @bikepete]

I'm fairly certain it's a rotary table for a Schaublin 53 or 53N: scroll down a bit for pics at:

http://www.lathes.co.uk/schaublinmiller/page4.html

and

http://www.lathes.co.uk/schaublin-53N/

I have a 53N: if you ever want to sell, or perhaps swap for a slightly smaller Hoffmann rotary table, please let me know!

Edited By Bikepete on 13/11/2017 21:56:21

[Noel RieussetParticipant @noelrieusset48142]

Thank you EVERYBODY.

It is defiantly a "Schaublin", everything matches, even down to the oil nipple position.

Thak you bikepete and Mark

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