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    Ramon Wilson
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      Hi,
       
      I was lucky enough recently to pick up a bench mounted Delapena honing machine.
       
      Does anyone have or know of where I can obtain a user manual?
       
      Also if anyone has any surplus tooling they wish to part with I’d be pleased to hear from them
       
      A long shot I know but worth an ‘ask’
       
      Thanks – Ramon
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      Ramon Wilson
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        #63448
        ady
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          @ady

          Is it the internal or the external version?

          #63456
          Dusty
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            @dusty
            Ramon
            It might be worth contacting Delapena themselves. If you don’t ask you don’t get.
            Most of these firms have an archive of old literature they may be willing to supply you with a copy. I expect at a cost, I suppose it depends how much you want it then. It may be that their spares dept may have one.
            #72500
            Paul Arthur
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              @paularthur35910
              Ramon
              I am sure that your question has been resolved, however definately contact Delapena Honing Equipment directly.
              phone: 01242-516341
              if you have any questions in regards to Delapena products and services please feel free to contact me or Delapena directly.
              #73484
              gtrack
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                @gtrack
                Not sure if it would be of use, but I have a catalogue with the various stones/mandrels etc in from when I had mine. It is one of those machines that I very much regret getting rid of. After having to move premises I rarely used it so more or less gave it away…..and of course could of done with its use a 1000 times since!
                 
                I`m pretty sure I found the manual on line a while ago, i`ll have a look on my previous computer to see if I can track in down in the favorites list……..
                 
                I see there are some for sale on Ebay from an American source, I believe the Sunnen unit is the same as well, I know the tooling is and pretty sure the machines use is the same?
                #73486
                gtrack
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                  @gtrack
                  Not sure if i`m aloud to post links, apologies if not.
                   
                  just click on the adobe red widget and it`ll download, save on your computer. Its free.
                   
                  The link I had for the delepena hones is http://www.sunnen.com/ResourceDetails.aspx?ResourceID=22&ProductID=21&NavID=662 but they are a little pricey (£25-45ish)
                   
                  Hope that helps.
                   
                   
                  #73487
                  gtrack
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                    @gtrack
                    sorry, the last link for the delaena hones should have been
                     
                     
                    just do a search for delapena, there are several listed further down.
                     
                    p.s. just noted the date of the original posting, so sorry if i`v bombarded with info for an already found solution.
                     
                     
                    #73492
                    David Clark 13
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                      @davidclark13
                      Hi There
                      Does anyone have any suggestions for lapping brass bores about 3/8 inch diameter and an inch or so long?
                      regards David
                       
                      #73498
                      John McNamara
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                        @johnmcnamara74883
                        Hi David
                        How about a lead lap?

                        First turn a slow taper on a suitable length of say ¼ inch stock then file a small flat on 4 sides of the taper for grip.

                        Drill a hole to match the thin end of your taper in a largish round fishing sinker a fair bit Over 3/8 diameter.

                        Then hammer the taper mandrel into the lead sinker. The sinker will deform. Then chuck the mandrel and turn the sinker on the lathe to fit your bore size.

                        Finally roll the sinker in fine abrasive and wash off the residue in solvent. Then use it with kerosene turning slowly on the lathe or in the drill press.

                        As the lap wears you can tap the mandrel further into the lead to expand it. An alternative is to thread the thin end of the steel mandrel (You need to leave a parallel section when turning the mandrel) and use an undersize sleeve and nut to force the lead lap up the taper and hold it in position.

                        Lead is softer than brass so it should retain the abrasive rather than transferring it to the brass bore. Any lap must be softer than the work. The lap must be less than half the length of the bore to avoid creating a taper.

                        Never let more than half the lap show at either end of the bore while lapping.

                        If you want a mirror finish you may have to use several abrasives and make a new lap for each to avoid contamination of fine abrasive by larger grits. Also avoid dirt on the lap as it can also contaminate it.

                        Cheers
                        John

                        #73500
                        gtrack
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                          @gtrack

                          David

                          I have seen small flap hones (just posh versions of what John has superbly described)and also very small flexi and ball hones that are used on bronze valve guides, but am unsure on how these would work on brass? I think maybe flooding with coolant/fluid would be a good idea…
                           
                          But I would go with John`s idea…..the other bits of kit are juat an easy (and more expensive) way of achieving this…..but it depends on how accurate you have to be I guess?
                           
                          James.
                          #73505
                          Richard Parsons
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                            For such narrow bores there is an old ‘nug’ smith’s trick. You smoke (or use plumber’s dirt which is not as good) the inside of the tube and seal up one end (I used plumbers dirt for this). Melt and pour in a small amount of lead. When cool swage the slug with a suitable rod and pop out the slug. Drill it and mount on a bicycle spoke. Roll the slug in a mixture of thin oil and a suitable grade of carborundum powder on a piece of glass and lap away at will. Before changing grades wash everything well, very well. You can make new slugs at will. This works with a tube which has ‘lands’ in it.
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                            Dick
                            #537791
                            Neil Lickfold
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                              I just got my Delapena hone going today, after getting a new motor, belt, and making some replacement bushes for it. It takes all the Sunnen tooling from the Conrod or small cylinder hone machines. Did a quick test job on it tonight and now think, why did I wait so long to get one, and get it going. It needed a lot of cleaning, and quite some time to get it all working again. But very happy with it. Now to start looking out for more stuff for it. I also have to get the pump and filter going again as well.

                              This was the only posting I found on hone, as the search brought up phone, lol

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