D1-3 compatibility

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  • #12325
    Michael Gilligan
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      @michaelgilligan61133

      CamLock, or is there an alternative ? …

      #159866
      Michael Gilligan
      Participant
        @michaelgilligan61133

        Can anyone please tell me the most compact lathe which would accept a D1-3 chuck? … either a proper CamLock fitting, or is there an alternative that keeps the big tapered nose, but replaces the lock-pins with bolts ??

        Thanks

        MichaelG.

        #159867
        Bob Brown 1
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          @bobbrown1

          I doubt there are any "compact" lathes that have a D1-3 headstock. What are you trying to achieve?

          #159869
          Nick_G
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            @nick_g

            .

            I know the Harrison M250 has a D1-3 headstock and this range of Boxfords does **LINK**

            I suppose it depends upon your definition of 'compact'.? I have one of those Boxfords which for model engineering could not be considered compact. But a friend of mine who runs a machine shop considers it to be a baby lathe.

            Nick

            #159874
            John Stevenson 1
            Participant
              @johnstevenson1

              chipmaster ?

              #159877
              JasonB
              Moderator
                @jasonb

                The 7 & 8 series Emco lathes have a tapered nose but use studs and nuts rather than cams if its the short taper fitting you are after.

                Prazimat also has the short taper but a keyhole type flange which just needs the nuts nipping up

                Edited By JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:56:29

                #159878
                Michael Gilligan
                Participant
                  @michaelgilligan61133
                  Posted by Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 11:07:43:

                  I doubt there are any "compact" lathes that have a D1-3 headstock. What are you trying to achieve?

                  .

                  Bob,

                  What I am trying to achieve, is the use of a Burnerd MultiSze Collet Chuch [which I already own] in the small space which I have available.

                  If I had the space, I would probably just buy a Chipmaster, or a Kerry [both of which I have used and liked], but I do not have the space, and I only need a small "working envelope" … i.e. I don't want, or need a big machine, but I do want to use this chuck.

                  MichaelG.

                  .

                  P.S. … I may consider buying just a headstock, and building a "Bitza"

                  #159879
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by John Stevenson on 06/08/2014 11:43:24:

                    chipmaster ?

                    .

                    John,

                    That would probably be my first choice, but I don't have the space.

                    Thanks

                    MichaelG.

                    #159880
                    Michael Gilligan
                    Participant
                      @michaelgilligan61133
                      Posted by JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:52:37:

                      The 7 & 8 series Emco lathes have a tapered nose but use studs and nuts rather than cams if its the short taper fitting you are after.

                      Prazimat also has the short taper but a keyhole type flange which just needs the nuts nipping up

                      Edited By JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:56:29

                      .

                      Thanks, Jason

                      I will investigate.

                      MichaelG.

                      #159881
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        Just saw your other post, its a different taper so no use to you

                        #159883
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133
                          Posted by Nick_G on 06/08/2014 11:15:22:

                          .

                          I suppose it depends upon your definition of 'compact'.?

                          Nick

                          .

                          Thanks, Nick

                          I think I've covered "compact" in my reply to Bob. … If it would just clear the Chuck body, and take [say] 12" between the face of the collet and a tailstock centre; that would be plenty big enough.

                          MichaelG. … [just looking for inspiration]

                          #159884
                          Michael Gilligan
                          Participant
                            @michaelgilligan61133
                            Posted by JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:59:43:

                            Just saw your other post, its a different taper so no use to you

                            .

                            Thanks anyway.

                            #159885
                            Bob Brown 1
                            Participant
                              @bobbrown1

                              I think you best bet may be to make up an adapter plate that once you remove the locking pins allows the chuck to be mounted/bolted on one of the compact lathe back plates, blanks are cheap enough.

                              Details of the D3-1 mount is here **LINK**

                              Bob

                              Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 12:40:01

                              #159890
                              Michael Gilligan
                              Participant
                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                Sorry, Bob, but that is not what I want.

                                I want a proper headstock spindle in big bearings, that is made to the appropriate level of precision.

                                MichaelG.

                                #159892
                                Bob Brown 1
                                Participant
                                  @bobbrown1

                                  How much space are we talking about?

                                  #159893
                                  John Stevenson 1
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                                    @johnstevenson1
                                    Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 11:55:33:

                                    Posted by Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 11:07:43:

                                    I doubt there are any "compact" lathes that have a D1-3 headstock. What are you trying to achieve?

                                    .

                                    Bob,

                                    What I am trying to achieve, is the use of a Burnerd MultiSze Collet Chuch [which I already own] in the small space which I have available.

                                    If I had the space, I would probably just buy a Chipmaster, or a Kerry [both of which I have used and liked], but I do not have the space, and I only need a small "working envelope" … i.e. I don't want, or need a big machine, but I do want to use this chuck.

                                    MichaelG.

                                    .

                                    P.S. … I may consider buying just a headstock, and building a "Bitza"

                                    .

                                    Surely a bit like finding a crutch in the gutter and breaking your leg so as to make full use of it ?

                                    #159894
                                    Old School
                                    Participant
                                      @oldschool

                                      Myford 254 but not really a compact

                                      #159895
                                      JasonB
                                      Moderator
                                        @jasonb

                                        A Bantam probably has a slightly smaller footprint than a chipmaster as the stand goes straight down rather than flaring out

                                        #159897
                                        Michael Gilligan
                                        Participant
                                          @michaelgilligan61133
                                          Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 10:57:34:

                                          Can anyone please tell me the most compact lathe which would accept a D1-3 chuck?

                                          .

                                          Bob,

                                          Space is at an absolute premium… which is why I specifically asked regarding "the most compact lathe which would accept a D1-3 chuck"

                                          This chuck has lain unused for over twenty years and [prompted by my discussions with Nick, on another thread], I have finally decided to find a way of using it.

                                          MichaelG.

                                          #159898
                                          Nick_G
                                          Participant
                                            @nick_g
                                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 13:20:19:

                                            [prompted by my discussions with Nick, on another thread], I have finally decided to find a way of using it.

                                            MichaelG.

                                            I get the blame for everything.!!!! devil

                                            Why should here be any different.? cheeky

                                            Nick winkwinkwink

                                            #159899
                                            Michael Gilligan
                                            Participant
                                              @michaelgilligan61133
                                              Posted by John Stevenson on 06/08/2014 13:11:40

                                              Surely a bit like finding a crutch in the gutter and breaking your leg so as to make full use of it ?

                                              .

                                              Quite possibly, John

                                              … or maybe like making a Buell because you had a Harley Davidson engine available?

                                              [feel free to subsitute other engine/frame combinations according to taste]

                                              MichaelG.

                                              #159900
                                              Michael Gilligan
                                              Participant
                                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                                Nick,

                                                star

                                                You were the spark of inspiration to get on and do something with my chuck !!

                                                Very positive … at least, I thought so until I started this thread.

                                                MichaelG.

                                                #159901
                                                Gary Wooding
                                                Participant
                                                  @garywooding25363

                                                  I used to have a Boxford BUD that had a Burnerd lever-operated Multisize collet chuck. I replaced the lathe with one that has a D1-3 spindle, but kept the collet chuck that, alas, no longer fits.

                                                  If you have a D1-3 collet chuck and need one that fits a Boxford AUD, BUD, or CUD, then maybe we can trade?

                                                  Gary

                                                  #159903
                                                  Bob Brown 1
                                                  Participant
                                                    @bobbrown1

                                                    I did not read the original question correctly, so I would think a short bed 20" Colchester Bantam or a Harrison M250 is probably going to be the smallest.

                                                    Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 14:09:29

                                                    #159905
                                                    John McNamara
                                                    Participant
                                                      @johnmcnamara74883

                                                      Hi Michael

                                                      My Lathe a Heidenreich and Harbeck 20Ro uses a Din 55027/5 spindle nose. This is basically the same as a Din 55029 (D1) spindle nose but the chuck has studs with nuts that attach through keyholes in a rotating bayonet ring instead of the cams on a D1.

                                                      This link may come in handy for you.

                                                      **LINK**

                                                      Regards
                                                      John

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