Austerity Locomotives

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29 April 2018 at 22:00 #352129
Jon Lawes
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It's true, I can't help but love the underdog. My Daily driver is the worlds least loved Porsche (the 924), my fun weekend car is the car that had a terrible reputation for killing people during oversteer moments (Triumph GT6), and if I was a fan of football I'd almost certainly be following Accrington Stanley or somesuch.

Which brings me on to my live steam interest; does anyone know if anyone has ever modelled any of the Austerity locomotives? I'm sure the Hunslet 0-6-0 has been copied, but what about the WD Austerity 2-8-0? And more importantly, the ultimate ugly duckling, the SR Q1 class?

I'm cutting my teeth on a Stuart 10H, but one day once I've refined some skills I'd love to tackle a Q1. I realise its a shape that would make kids run screaming but I'm smitten with anything that has function over form.

Has anyone had a crack at one of these?

Thanks, Jon.
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29 April 2018 at 22:00 #1709
Jon Lawes
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The underdogs
29 April 2018 at 22:31 #352130
Dave Smith 14
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Jon

Couple of links for you

http://modeleng.proboards.com/thread/12053/5-bulleid-q1

Look at the Q1 page on this site

http://www.bulleidlocos.org.uk/_q1/q1Class.aspx

Dave
29 April 2018 at 22:35 #352132
Jon Lawes
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Thats fantastic, thanks Dave! So glad these have been recognised.
30 April 2018 at 00:06 #352139
duncan webster 1
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LBSC covered Austerity 2-8-0, Austere Ada
30 April 2018 at 03:22 #352144
Another JohnS
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Jon; Duncan;

Nick Feast did a beautiful job of design, writeup and construction of a Q1 in these pages. Castings from Polly/Bruce Engineering. 3-1/2" gauge.

LBSC also did the S160, the American locomotive that was shipped over to Britain/Europe, and eventually went everywhere. 2-1/2" gauge.

Aster did the BR52, German war locomotive, in Gauge 1. It's in kit form, though sold out. Aster also did the SNCF 141R, built in 2 places in Canada and one in the USA, something like 1300 were shipped over at the end of hostilities.

Can't think of any others at the moment.
30 April 2018 at 08:08 #352153
Clive India
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Posted by duncan webster on 30/04/2018 00:06:09:

LBSC covered Austerity 2-8-0, Austere Ada

You wouldn't want to meet up with her on a Saturday night!

I'm not sure what is included in austerity. Obviously the 2-10-0 and 2-8-0 were and so was the Q1.

Would people consider the Ivatt 2 and Ivatt 4 to be austerity? Any others?

Edited By Clive India on 30/04/2018 08:11:35
30 April 2018 at 09:31 #352161
Mick B1
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You could try the American 2-10-0 S160, built for UK/European wartime use and postwar reconstruction. It bears a passing resemblance to Austere Ada, and the Churnet Valley Railway has 2 (full size) runners.

Info from Taunton model engineers here:-

http://www.tauntonme.org.uk/oilyrag/images/spring2013web.pdf
30 April 2018 at 10:57 #352179
julian atkins
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Hi Jon,

Blackgates now market the Clarkson range, and included is the 5"g 2-10-0 WD Austerity loco. You can download the Clarkson catalogue on the Blackgates website.

Cheers,

Julian
30 April 2018 at 12:45 #352195
Jon Lawes
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That's some excellent leads, thank you. I'm a little constricted due to the size of my lathe (Myford ML7) but I'm sure I'll find something of interest.

Thanks again,

Jon.
30 April 2018 at 18:58 #352227
John Purdy
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Jon

Nick Feast's building of the Q1 ran for 28 installments in ME from Vol. 202, 05 Jun.2009 issue 4353 to Vol. 206, 08 Apr. 2011 issue 4401.

John
30 April 2018 at 21:07 #352261
Jon Lawes
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I'm mainly glad someone has done it. Such a soft spot for these ugly ducklings.
3 May 2018 at 08:33 #352596
Clive India
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Posted by Clive India on 30/04/2018 08:08:47:

Posted by duncan webster on 30/04/2018 00:06:09:

LBSC covered Austerity 2-8-0, Austere Ada

You wouldn't want to meet up with her on a Saturday night!

I'm not sure what is included in austerity. Obviously the 2-10-0 and 2-8-0 were and so was the Q1.

Would people consider the Ivatt 2 and Ivatt 4 to be austerity? Any others?

Apologies, silly me – not even worth commenting on?
3 May 2018 at 08:54 #352599
Peter Layfield
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There are 5" gauge models of the Austerity 0-6-0 running, and there are a number of the 2-10-0,s about

and a really brilliant 2-8-0 in Holland that is brought over to U.K. on visits to club tracks, but as already

said see Blackgates catalogue with the Clarkson designs
4 May 2018 at 10:00 #352780
william Powell
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Hi Jon

Nick Feast in a member of the local club, and his fleet (he has 3 Q1's!) all run well. It is a good size, in that its not too heavy to lift into the car/work bench or track. I belive that he has updated the drawings to remove any errors. I am building one in 5" gauge (thats the link to it at Model pro boards) Its worth dropping Rob Spears a email a Bulleid builders group, there is a lot of information on them. The Myford should be fine for the 3 1/2" gauge loco. I remachined the wheels on my Drummond with no problems. Cylinder block could be machined between centres or on a Keats angle plate.

Will
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