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    lug lord
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      @luglord

      Just ground myself a really nice facing tool for plastic very sharp etc and when i took it out of my tool post it was broken in 2

      what would cause this is the tool post uneven am i tightning the screws too much

      or is it just a very old hss tool piece probably older than me maybe been dropped on the floor

      any ideas thanks

      #8925
      lug lord
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        @luglord
        #323293
        David Standing 1
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          @davidstanding1

          What sort of tool post is it?

          Was there swarf under one end of the tool?

          A photograph would help.

           

           

           

          Edited By David Standing 1 on 24/10/2017 17:37:54

          #323300
          not done it yet
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            @notdoneityet

            The position at which it fractured should give you some indication of the likely cause.

            If not a straightness of holder problem, it could be caused by tightening down beyond any packing pieces.

            While the tightening screws do not need to be extreeemly tight, over-tightening should more likely damage the screws/threads of the holder.

            #323305
            Mick B1
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              @mickb1

              I've done that to a 1/4" square bit when I tightened all 3 toolpost screws down onto it, but had forgotten that the packing only extended under the front 2. Didn't know I'd done it till I took the tool out.

              #323315
              lug lord
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                @luglord

                Its a 4 tool post myford super 7 i think it might have been swarf under the tool maybe as i broke 2 tools one after another

                #323316
                David Standing 1
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                  @davidstanding1

                  Always brush your tool holder out before putting a tool in!

                  But you know that now………blush

                  #323318
                  David Standing 1
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                    @davidstanding1

                    By the way, with my reply to your RDG thread, it isn't 'pick on lug lord' day, honest blush

                    #323325
                    SillyOldDuffer
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                      @sillyoldduffer

                      Posted by lug lord on 24/10/2017 16:16:26:

                      or is it just a very old hss tool piece probably older than me maybe been dropped on the floor

                      any ideas thanks

                      Are you sure the metal is HSS? I wonder if you have tool-steel – it's more brittle.

                      Dave

                      #323327
                      Mike Poole
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                        @mikepoole82104

                        I was taught to put a piece of packing between the screws and the tool bit to minimise any tendency to a point contact.

                        Mike

                        #323329
                        lug lord
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                          @luglord
                          Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 24/10/2017 18:49:08:

                          Posted by lug lord on 24/10/2017 16:16:26:

                          or is it just a very old hss tool piece probably older than me maybe been dropped on the floor

                          any ideas thanks

                          Are you sure the metal is HSS? I wonder if you have tool-steel – it's more brittle.

                          Dave

                          not sure there very old tools for sure came in an old wooden cigar box ian

                          #323385
                          Hopper
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                            Posted by Mike Poole on 24/10/2017 19:00:08:

                            I was taught to put a piece of packing between the screws and the tool bit to minimise any tendency to a point contact.

                            Mike

                            Now there's a good tip. I learn something new on this site every day.

                            #323421
                            lug lord
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                              @luglord
                              Posted by Hopper on 25/10/2017 05:52:32:

                              Posted by Mike Poole on 24/10/2017 19:00:08:

                              I was taught to put a piece of packing between the screws and the tool bit to minimise any tendency to a point contact.

                              Mike

                              Now there's a good tip. I learn something new on this site every day.

                              Cheers for advice in future I will use a thick shim on the top to stop the point of the screws on the tools and make sure no swarf on my tool post thanks ian

                              #323498
                              SillyOldDuffer
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                                @sillyoldduffer
                                Posted by lug lord on 25/10/2017 10:13:33:

                                Posted by Hopper on 25/10/2017 05:52:32:

                                Posted by Mike Poole on 24/10/2017 19:00:08:

                                … and make sure no swarf on my tool post thanks ian

                                Not just on the tool-post. Swarf goes everywhere it's not wanted. D*** stuff is a pain in the rear-end, sometimes literally!

                                Well worth keeping chucks and leadscrews etc clean with a toothbrush. In theory I wipe off bearing surfaces like tapers and chuck backs every time I change tool. (In practice I often forget but that's a different problem.) Quite small bits of swarf in the wrong place can throw accuracy off as well as cause damage.

                                Dave

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