Orbital – Not your Usual Oscillator!

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  • #852170
    JasonB
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      @jasonb

      For some time I have fancied making an engine with a horizontal flywheel but never found anything that took my fancy. There is an old design for a marine engine that was tempting but not the nicest looking thing. Anthony Mount did the Whitmoore & Binyon but you can’t really see the flywheel on that. Howeve while looking through some old copies of Dampf Modell magazine for something else, this photo caught my eye and that was all it took.

      original orbital

      A bit of time spent with Alibre and I came up with this design. It is 11mm bore x 13mm stroke. Flywheel is 115mm dia x 6.75mm wide (to suit the offcut of thick wall tube I had) Alibre has the option to show the ctr of mass and by looking at this while trying a few different ball bearing diameters I got the design almost perfectly balanced, it does change as the engine rotates and the piston moves in & out.

      3d

      The “spokes were cut on teh CNC from a disc of 4mm thick steel and then the various steam passages added on the manual mill. Here I am using a long series drill to get air from the hub to the cylinder.

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      Some further milling diverted the air around the cylinder pivot which had a bronze insert fitted. The hub was made up of two pieces of brass and the rim from the above mentioned offcut of thick wall tube. All assembled with JBWeld and then finish machined

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      A 2mm drill shank was ground to make a cutter to form an annular groove in the bottom face of the flywheel which allowed air to flow from a hole in the base during the full rotation of the flywheel.

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      The cylinder was much the same as the other small oscillators I have been making recently which start a sa rectangular block that is bored & turned

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      Then the holes added and port face milled to width

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      I also milled some decorative flutes with a 2mm ball nose cutter.

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      The last job was a quick lap with 600g silicon carbide powder and oil mix

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      The base boss like the cylinder end cover and crank pin cap were turned with a mix of conventonal turning tools, form tools for the balls and some freehand graver work for the concave parts.

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      #852171
      JasonB
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        @jasonb

        I used some VHT wrinkle finish paint for the “cast” surfaces altough it did not wrinkle as well as it has done in the past. The Cylinder was done with Fial “orange red” and the rest left bare.

        An offcut of Paranna pine provided the base which was finished off with three ebony bun feet.

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        Alibre seems to have got it right as there is very little tendency for the engine to want to start dancing around the bench. However it is very much a “stationary” engine as once running all that work becomes a bit of a blur, even the slowmo at the end of the video does not capture it very well.

         

        #852172
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          Love it !

          MichaelG.

          #852176
          Grindstone Cowboy
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            @grindstonecowboy

            I like that, even though I don’t fully understand how it works!

            Rob

            #852177
            Grizzly bear
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              @grizzlybear

              Fantastic workmanship.

              #852195
              Nigel Graham 2
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                @nigelgraham2

                What a wonderful engine!

                Lovely work, and very interesting building techniques too.

                #852202
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  High Speed drilling machine, anyone ?

                  MichaelG.

                  …. I wonder what the original’s intended application was.

                  #852204
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133

                    Google’s AI image search needed some help, but actually appeared to have learned from my hint:

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                    MichaelG.

                    #852206
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      Thanks for the comments, even though according to AI it is a Primitive engine.😂

                      I don’t think there was a specific application, the article that the photo was in featured the models of a German cartoonist, Klaus Kock, better known for his steam powered fish.

                      klaus

                      #852207
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133

                        Thanks for the copy, Jason

                        MichaelG.

                        #852210
                        John MC
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                          @johnmc39344

                          Lovely little engine Jason.  How about a constructional series or some drawings, would make a nice short break from the more “weighty” projects.

                          #852217
                          JasonB
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                            @jasonb

                            I’ve written up several more detailed builds lately that are on this site, some with drawings. Also have one for the recently shown SEL engine that will be going into the mag. All are nice little engines that can be fitted in between longer projects. The new monthly format of the mag means Neil can only run one stationary engine subject at a time so not sure when it will appear as I have one currently running for the Clarkson and then some other articles too.

                             

                            PM me if you ( or anyone else interested in making it) can open .STP files then you can have all the parts and make your own 2D drawings from there for this engine as I don’t tend to make 2D drawings for my own use.

                            #852218
                            Jim Nic
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                              @jimnic

                              A very “different” concept beautifully made as always.

                              I think I might not try it myself.

                              Jim

                              #852228
                              noel shelley
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                                @noelshelley55608

                                Fascinating in both design and construction. An interesting conversation piece. Thanks for your efforts. Noel.

                                #852261
                                Martin Johnson 1
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                                  @martinjohnson1

                                  A multi cylinder version would much improve the slow running which would be hypnotic to watch…………

                                  Martin

                                  #852301
                                  Harry Wilkes
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                                    @harrywilkes58467

                                    Nice

                                    H

                                    #852361
                                    Andrew Crow
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                                      @andrewcrow91475

                                      Another most unusual design and once again expertly produced, nice job Jason.

                                      Andy

                                      #852439
                                      JasonB
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                                        @jasonb
                                        On Martin Johnson 1 Said:

                                        A multi cylinder version would much improve the slow running which would be hypnotic to watch…………

                                        Martin

                                        Here is a quick idea of what a 9-cyl might look like, looking forward to seeing yours running slow😈

                                        orbit 9

                                        #852459
                                        duncan webster 1
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                                          @duncanwebster1

                                          Shades of the Gnome Rotary WW1 aero engine

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