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  • #811533
    Andy Sproule
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      @andysproule22368

      Hi,I have been looking on the big auction site at these Al-310 X-Axis Power Feed Horizontal.Has anyone got one of these and could tell me what they think of them?I have contacted a few of the suppliers asking for a pic and dimensions of the the drive gear that fits onto the mill but have got no response.There is a picture of a rubber gear on some of them which I have attached,that can’t be it or is it?The sort of drive gear I would need would be the second pic metal with a 17mm ID.WhatsApp Image 2025-08-09 at 10.05.25_f72ef652WhatsApp Image 2025-08-09 at 10.24.20_611a9237

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      #811567
      Diogenes
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        @diogenes

        Yes I have one. The steel gear came with the kit and the shaft hole and dogs were spot-on for my late model Warco Major – it bolted straight on, no mods necessary.

        The plastic gear is part of the internal reduction I think and under very little stress.

        I’ll go measure up for you in a short while.

        #811573
        Andy Sproule
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          @andysproule22368

          That would be great thank you.Would you know by any chance if its ok to attach  the exact link to this item on the auction site so we are definately talking about the same thing?Or I could pm you the link if that was ok.

          #811574
          Diogenes
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            @diogenes

            The steel gear is for a 17mm feedscrew shaft. It should be included in a ‘horizontal’ kit.

            The ‘flexi’ gear is an internal part but a sacrificial/consumable spare hence the listings.

            My unit is branded as ‘Wen Ding’ but they’re all generic (you could probably get your own name put on them if you wished). I will see if I can find the original listing.

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            #811577
            Diogenes
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              @diogenes

              The brand label is ‘Wen Ding’ – the description was “220V Power Feed Milling Machine Al-310S X-Axis Durable Power Torque 450in-lb UK220V” and it was clearly a horizontal model.

              Spur gear was supplied, pretty sure there was a note to this effect because the vertical-mount models use a bevel gear.

              It’s been fine, performance-wise. Good range of /and consistent speeds.

              Taking time / care to set up the gear clearance pays dividends in smoothness and consistency later.

               

               

              #811580
              alan ord 2
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                @alanord2

                Andy, have you seen this thread on the forum “Mill Power feed unit”. I think it will answer most of your questions.

                Just insert – Mill Power feed unit- into the search engine.

                Hope I’m not teaching granny to suck eggs!!

                Alan

                #811586
                Macolm
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                  @macolm

                  I have had a Taiwanese “Align” version for a good few years. It works well for what it is, well chosen range of speed, easy to use and reliable (so far). The reverser/clutch and rapid feed switch allow quick return for the next pass, with the chosen speed setting retained.

                  #811588
                  SillyOldDuffer
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                    @sillyoldduffer
                    On Andy Sproule Said:

                    … Would you know by any chance if its ok to attach  the exact link to this item on the auction site so we are definately talking about the same thing?…

                    As long as you’re not advertising it!

                    🙂

                    Dave

                    #811589
                    Andy Sproule
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                      @andysproule22368

                      Thank you for all replies great help.No reply from any of the suppliers yet about the gear.This is the type of one I’m looking at.

                      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364630400783

                      #811600
                      Macolm
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                        @macolm

                        Yes, that is the universal design, widely copied from the original, with all fairly identical to the point that the spares are interchangeable. This Mill/drill version is derived from the Bridgeport type which has a right angle bevel connection to the leadscrew rather than the straight gear.

                        #811625
                        Chris Gunn
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                          @chrisgunn36534

                          I have been considering one of these, my original DC Bridgeport one is U/S, one question I have is that my current one has a trip bar that trips the feed lever, which is on the top of the unit, to neutral when the stop gets to the stop position. do these units operate in the same way? I cannot see it from the pics or instructions.

                          Chris Gunn

                          #811633
                          Macolm
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                            @macolm

                            Probably not. Mine came with a wired limit stop block with a microswitch for each direction. This was intended to fit to, or instead of, the original solid limit stop. By the time I bought the power feed, I had already modified the stop design and have no experience of how well it worked in detail. I rigged up the limit switch block, which worked OK for normal machining feed, but I quickly observed that using fast slew could result in a hard crash on the stop block. I therefore made up my own stop system with enough overtravel. Of course for this to be safe, the work also needs to be set up and checked, but it all works fine for me. Hope this helps.

                            #811635
                            Michael Gilligan
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                              @michaelgilligan61133
                              On Andy Sproule Said:

                              Thank you for all replies great help.No reply from any of the suppliers yet about the gear.This is the type of one I’m looking at.

                              https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364630400783

                              I’m inclined to think that it’s a simple error of translation:

                              Rubber Gear Plastic Gear

                              MichaelG.

                              #811637
                              Diogenes
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                                @diogenes

                                Yes Andy that looks like the same one – different seller but same model – apologies I missed your intermediate post!

                                Chris, as Macolm says these only have simple switched electrical supply cut-outs and will over-run – I haven’t investigated if a reliable mechanical drop-out could be arranged, would increase the usefulness tenfold.

                                Essentially just an electric handle-winder as supplied.

                                #811687
                                Macolm
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                                  @macolm

                                  Now there’s a thing – my Align make unit came with a limit switch block on a flying lead. The two micros switches connect to relay coils in the unit electronics, each stopping only the appropriate rotation so that the opposite direction still works. It looks like the Chinese item in the link dispenses with this, presumably including the relays.

                                  I must say that I would find that very inconvenient. I use the feature all the time to allow doing something else during long cuts. I do make it a rule to be within immediate emergency stop distance.

                                  The “rubber” (nylon) reduction gear has a conical mount, presumably intended to work as a slipping clutch. As delivered, the spring was far too strong to provide any useful protection, but I found a suitable lighter spring which seems about right.

                                  #811697
                                  Diogenes
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                                    @diogenes

                                    Yes, though that is hard-wired to the unit, and is mentioned in the generic ‘instructions’ text – it does not show the bracket though..

                                    Unfortunately the ‘shop’ from which I bought mine no longer exists. A more exact/complete/better-illustrated analogy would be this one, which also states the correct shaft diameter size;

                                    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364697290673

                                    I think part of the trouble is that these ‘shops’ are just box-shifters with no understanding of the product and it’s nuances – some seem to have a better understanding than others.

                                    #811715
                                    Chris Gunn
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                                      @chrisgunn36534

                                      Thanks folks for confirming that these units use limit switches instead of a mechanical trip. Everyone seems happy with them, so its time to bite the bullet, and get one, so I can go back to doing 2 things at once.

                                      Chris Gunn

                                      #811723
                                      Macolm
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                                        @macolm

                                        Do check carefully that these units have a limit switch function. It is not at all clear that they do. One of the Bridgport type (bevel gear) pictures does appear to show what could be limit switch block, grouped with the mains connection cable. I did not find such a picture for the mill/drill type.

                                        Also not clear about the jog function. My unit has only a fast slew button that puts full mains voltage on the motor. That is fine by me, and indeed very useful. It could be what they mean by “jog”!

                                        #811734
                                        Diogenes
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                                          @diogenes

                                          I’d be very surprised if the limit switch was omitted, in the link I gave above the middle photos show fairly clearly two cables exiting the unit on the lower RH side, one is mains power in, other must be limit switches – on mine the switch was already pre-wired / installed on a lead ‘as delivered’.

                                          Agree the rapid-traverse button is also the ‘jog’ function, it’s a momentary switch on mine, so dab to jog / hold to rapid traverse..

                                           

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                                          Diogenes
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                                            @diogenes

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                                            #811776
                                            Michael Gilligan
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                                              @michaelgilligan61133

                                              This is probably worth watching:

                                              MichaelG.

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                                              #811815
                                              old mart
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                                                @oldmart

                                                Andy, I presume you know that particular power feed in your ebay link lays flat and sticks out of the left end of the mill much more than the very similar type that sits vertically at the right end of the bed.

                                                The video that Michael shows is of the alternative fitting type.

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