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    Former Member2
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      #100420
      John Stevenson 1
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        Probably the steam engines as with it we had the start of the industrial revolution bringing on more discoveries including the tractor.

        Previous to the tractor we had plowing engines.

        Howver a good post Grey as we all have our own interpretation of what is the best invention, we will leave it up to Ady to re-invent the wheel wink and to Springbok to tell us they will all be on display at the next Bristol show cheeky

        #100421
        Eric Cox
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          It has to be the clock

          It regulated the working day, made accurate navigation possible and thus opened up trade routes. It syncronised the railways. The list goes on had I more time to add to it.

          #100422
          Paul Lousick
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            How about a lathe. A machine that can repair itself. Without it you could not make a tractor.

            #100423
            blowlamp
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              The lathe, as it enabled all the above things to happen.

              Martin.

              EDIT: Paul. you beat me to it smiley

              Edited By blowlamp on 10/10/2012 09:26:05

              #100424
              DerryUK
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                Internal combustion engine.

                #100426
                Niloch
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                  The WHEEL (and its axle). NO CONTEST. (Shouting intended!)

                  #100428
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    An excellent thread, Gray

                    I will sponsor Archimedes' Screw

                    Originally devised as a means for lifting water, it is now being used "in reverse" as the Turbine for small scale Electricity Generation.

                    MichaelG.

                    #100431
                    Mike Poole
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                      The lathe gets my vote, it is the mother of all machine tools and can be powered by a man,water, steam or electricity or any other power source you can think of.

                      Mike

                      #100433
                      Boiler Bri
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                        Hand tools as none of the above would have been possible without them.

                        Boiler

                        #100434
                        Eric Cox
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                          Sorry Boiler Bri but hand tools are not mechanical.

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                          Terryd
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                            Posted by Eric Cox on 10/10/2012 10:27:05:

                            Sorry Boiler Bri but hand tools are not mechanical.

                            Hi Eric,

                            Hand tools may not be part of a machine, but they can be described as mechanical,

                            Quote – Dictionary.com:

                            "6. pertaining to the design, use, understanding, etc., of tools and machinery: the mechanical trades; mechanical ability."

                            There is a great little book about the importance and development of the screwdriver and screw – I forget it's title just now but will look it out. The screw in all it's forms is generally regarded as a mechanical device. Perhaps the most important mechanical device is the screw generating machine to generate the first accurate screw thread which led to easy assembly and disassambly of other mechanical devices and led to the concept of interchangeability and hence volume production methods.  The screw also allowed the development of accurate end delicate instruments and clocks (previously rather crude blacksmith made devices to regulate the religious day) which allowed finer and finer engineering to be undertaken.

                            Best regards

                            Terry

                            Found it! the book is called

                            One Good Turn: a Natural History of the Screwdriver and the Screw, by Witold Rybczynski

                             

                            Edited By Terryd on 10/10/2012 11:07:58

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                            Michael Gilligan
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                              Posted by Terryd on 10/10/2012 11:00:11:

                              Perhaps the most important mechanical device is the screw generating machine to generate the first accurate screw thread which led to easy assembly and disassambly of other mechanical devices and led to the concept of interchangeability and hence volume production methods..

                              Best regards

                              Terry

                              Terry,

                              Would you therefore agree regarding Archimedes' Screw ?

                              Everything you mention lies between the two extremes that I highlighted.

                              MichaelG.

                              #100440
                              Ian S C
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                                I suppose it's all chicken and egg really, but my vote for a machine would be the lathe, in one form or other, that includes such things as the potters wheel, and the lathe type device used to turn round stone collums of ancient buildings. Ian S C

                                #100441
                                Ady1
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                                  we will leave it up to Ady to re-invent the wheel

                                  —-

                                  laugh

                                  My first thoughts were canned food, antibiotics and clean water….

                                  most valuable mechanical invention made to date

                                  What made the steam engine possible?

                                  What made large scale metal production possible?

                                  The blast furnace, the foundry?

                                  But industry A feeds industry B which feeds industry C which makes improvements for Industry A and so on.

                                  Synergy. The sum of the parts being greater than the whole

                                  I would go with the steam engine, which was originally rubbish but then someone put tubes into it and its efficiency was massively increased

                                  The Steam engine was the first time a machine could do real useful work anywhere it was needed

                                  This resulted in an explosion of output, the industrial revolution

                                  #100442
                                  Bubble
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                                    Hi all

                                    Joseph Whitworth's inspired invention of the method of producing a true flat surface plate using three plates scraped to all fit together. Two plates could be flat or spherical, three plates could only be flat.

                                    He achieved accuracies of a millionth of an inch in the1840's

                                    This invention allowed the production of precision measuring instruments and machine tools from which all else in precision engineering stemmed.

                                    Jim

                                    #100445
                                    Ady1
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                                      A steam engine meant you could power an overhead drive to make any machine you want to realise its full potential

                                      So a place with 5 painstakingly made hand fettled lathes and planers could suddenly make 5 a month instead of 1 and do this 24/7

                                      Output soared exponentially, the poles melted and all the polar bears drowned

                                      #100446
                                      Eric Cox
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                                        "Hand tools may not be part of a machine, but they can be described as mechanical"

                                        In the context of the question "mechanical" refers to machinery.

                                        As for the suggestions of the lathe, try turning without a clock, ie rpm and ft/min plus the time you take.

                                        It's definately the clock

                                        #100447
                                        Michael Gilligan
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                                          Posted by Jim Cahill on 10/10/2012 11:43:12:

                                          Hi all

                                          Joseph Whitworth's inspired invention of the method of producing a true flat surface plate using three plates scraped to all fit together. Two plates could be flat or spherical, three plates could only be flat.

                                          He achieved accuracies of a millionth of an inch in the1840's

                                          This invention allowed the production of precision measuring instruments and machine tools from which all else in precision engineering stemmed.

                                          Jim

                                          Jim,

                                          A couple of publications that I think you would enjoy:

                                          1. ON AN UNIFORM SYSTEM OF SCREW THREADS,
                                            Communicated to the Institution of Civil Engineers, A.D. 1841
                                          2. The Whitworth Measuring Machine
                                            Goodeve and Shelley, 1877
                                          MichaelG.

                                          #100450
                                          Trevor Wright
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                                            Would go for the steam engine, but without the blast furnace there was no quality steel for the boiler, without the lathe the cylinders could not be bored. Without Iron ore and coal in the ground the blast furnace was pointless…..without power the the lathe would not turn…..

                                            To me the industrial revolution may not be a machine in itself, but as a whole it happened because of all the above mentioned factors and the world changed for ever………for good or bad……

                                            Waiting to be shot down……..

                                            Trev

                                            #100452
                                            GoCreate
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                                              The crank shaft, without which your wonderful reciprocating engines would have limited use and the industrial revolution may not have happened.

                                              Nigel

                                              #100453
                                              JamieG
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                                                I would say the bearing. A simple but ingenious mechanical invention.

                                                The invention of the rolling bearing, in the form of an object being moved on wooden rollers, is of great antiquity and may predate the invention of the wheel.

                                                Interesting question Graham!

                                                Giacomo

                                                Edited By JamieG on 10/10/2012 13:42:03

                                                #100455
                                                Ian P
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                                                  We have had quite a vareiety of suggestions in response to Graham's question. OK I might be being a little pedantic but the question to the forum was about the most 'Valuable' 'mechanical' invention.

                                                  My take is that he means value to society rather than monetary worth, also by mentioning the humble(?) tractor he infers something quite complex which would rule out the wheel or Archimedean screw.

                                                  So really its back to Graham to define what he means by those terms.

                                                  Ian P

                                                  #100456
                                                  John McNamara
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                                                    Hi All

                                                    To me it would have to be the printing press in recent times or the wheel some time in the distant past.

                                                    Cheers

                                                    John

                                                    #100457
                                                    Terryd
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                                                      Posted by Trevor Wright on 10/10/2012 12:53:57:

                                                      Would go for the steam engine, but without the blast furnace there was no quality steel for the boiler, without the lathe the cylinders could not be bored. Without Iron ore and coal in the ground the blast furnace was pointless…..without power the the lathe would not turn…..

                                                      To me the industrial revolution may not be a machine in itself, but as a whole it happened because of all the above mentioned factors and the world changed for ever………for good or bad……

                                                      Waiting to be shot down……..

                                                      Trev


                                                      Hi Trev,

                                                      No shooting from here, but just one point, Newcomens cylinders were cast and hand scraped, Boilers rivetted from wrought iron plates. If we are gonig for large machines, the first ones to have any real power were wind and water mills. Early hammers for beating plates were water powered, as were rolling mills and the air blast for early smelting.

                                                      Hi Eric,

                                                      I don't see your distinction, the OP asked for the most important mechanical device, not machine or mechanism. Most would agree that a hand tool is a mechanical device, it's certainly not a digital one. Perhaps the first time a caveman made a stone hammer fills the bill, it seperated us from the animals and enabled the progress that eventually led to the agrarian revolution and the rest is history as they say.

                                                      Hi Michael,

                                                      I would agree with your hypothesis,

                                                      Best regards

                                                      Terry

                                                      Edited By Terryd on 10/10/2012 15:12:53

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