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This topic has 22 replies, 16 voices, and was last updated 10 February 2015 at 21:50 by charadam.

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25 October 2013 at 22:22 #12206
Ian Welford
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25 October 2013 at 22:22 #133689
Ian Welford
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Anyone know the thread of the screws which secure the jaw plates on a record 30 quick release vice? They heave quite a fine thread ( I['m guessing imperial?) and a taper to the screw head. Slots on mine are a bit knackered (not me got it 2 years ago) and I want to replace the jaws with aluminium so might as well fit new screws at the same time.

Cheers Ian
25 October 2013 at 22:22 #133690
Ian Welford
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OOps- typo- Record 36 vice!!!
26 October 2013 at 01:11 #133703
Gone Away
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Why replace the jaws? You can get a whole new vice here for only £821
26 October 2013 at 10:04 #133720
Brian Wood
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Hello Ian,

I've checked my 4 inch Record, those jaw screws are 1/4 inch Whitworth 20tpi with 3/4 inch of thread under the countersunk head. I would imagine the makers standardised on that size for the whole range of vice sizes, why do otherwise?

As for podding out £800+ on a new vice, surely a joke!!

Regards Brian
26 October 2013 at 10:32 #133724
Ady1
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It's probbly a solid steel unit
26 October 2013 at 16:16 #133743
Gone Away
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Posted by Brian Wood on 26/10/2013 10:04:23:

As for podding out £800+ on a new vice, surely a joke!!

Certainly in my case (hence the smiley). I believe the seller is serious though.
26 October 2013 at 19:34 #133765
Stovepipe
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Sorry, which planet did you say they were on? But I expect solid gold is cheaper there.

Dennis
26 October 2013 at 19:58 #133768
The Merry Miller
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What you may not have realised is that delivery is free, normally it would be about £700 or there about.

Len. P.
26 October 2013 at 21:20 #133779
Stovepipe
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@stovepipe
Have they taken "Record" in the name too literally ?

Dennis
26 October 2013 at 21:36 #133782
Keith Long
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The T36 isn't even the expensive one – the T114 comes in at over £1000 +vat

Keith
27 October 2013 at 20:51 #133900
Ian Welford
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@ianwelford58739
Hi Brian

Sadly they may have standardised NOW but the ones in this one are 1" long, 26 tpi and almost a square form thread (?) with a large degree of taker under the head for the first 1/4". The diameter ( to top of thread) is 302 thou.

BSF perhaps?

I should add they were certainly put in never to be removed without considerable effort ! Mine have now been extracted, copper slipped and reinserted.

Until I extracted them and compared to the ones shown as a spare available now, I was going to bite the bullet and order a set of jaws etc ( £50 !!!) but they're totally different.

I have e mailed record to see what their view is and will update this when I know.

Made me feel a bit better when I saw the same vice on ebay for £170! Mind you you have to go and collect it. Just about gave me a hernia when I picked mine up !

Thanks one and all

Ian
4 November 2013 at 20:05 #134613
Ian Welford
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The threads are apparently 312 thou diameter, 26 TPI BSW free fitting! So cays the IRWIN tools technical helpline!

Now I've just got to source some. Or make some perhaps and case harden

Regards Ian
5 November 2013 at 13:19 #134659
Ian S C
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.312 = 5/16", 26 TPI is 5/16" UNF, not BSF which is 22TPI, Whitworth is18 TPI, so I don't know what Irwin Tools are talking about, or maybe they don't.

Ian, your 1/4 x 26TPI screws are BSF. Ian S C

Edited By Ian S C on 05/11/2013 13:21:53
5 November 2013 at 15:59 #134684
Springbok
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To this company there was a person on a tennis court who used to to say "You have to be joking"

Bob
5 November 2013 at 16:26 #134686
Springbok
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Got one of these years ago when ELF and SAFETY decided to have our metal working shop shut down, if I remember it originally cost around 15.00. another thing was a very large anvil on a stand a few years before this they decided to instruct us that the point must be removed as a student might impail themself. (God there were a few that I would have happily stuck them on backwards) now back to the plot will take mine apart and measure it.

Bob
5 November 2013 at 17:23 #134690
John C
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I have a record No 5 vice of some considerable vintage. The screws that hold the jaws are 5/16 BSW by 1 inch total length, countersunk.

I got my replacements from EmKay Screw Supplies (WWW.emkaysupplies.co.uk) at a very reasonable cost and quick delivery. I bought the 1 1/4 long screws and cut them down.

Rgds,

John
4 February 2015 at 11:36 #178417
Barry Doolan
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I know this is an old thread but just wanted to add the following info in case anyone is searching in the future.

I have two record 36's at the moment and the older one with 'steel' on the side has a 5/16 BSW 18 TPI thread holding the vice jaws on. The newer one seems to use something like and 8mm x 1mm pitch thread, it certainly isn't a 24tpi or 26 tpi thread, I've checked against the old screw and the replacement sent with the new jaws I have bought.
4 February 2015 at 18:42 #178443
Nicholas Farr
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Hi, as far as price go's for a new T36 Record vice, it is no joke. These are designed for industrial use and incorporates an anvil. plus quick release. Both Cromwell Tools and Buck and Hickman have as similar price to the one linked in the above post. See **LINK** and **LINK**

Regards Nick.
4 February 2015 at 20:52 #178468
Brian Rice 1
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Good heavens I gave one away about ten years ago
7 February 2015 at 01:19 #178785
Trevor Drabble 1
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Ian,

I have an original Sheffield made Record 25 vice in excellent condition which I am about to advertise . You're welcome to first refusal if you feel you can lift it ! Pictures can be supplied . I am in South Yorkshire.

Trevor.
7 February 2015 at 06:14 #178792
Harry Wilkes
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You find a lot of inflated prices on ebay it's done to avoid fee's when the item is not in stock !

H

like this

Edited By Harry Wilkes on 07/02/2015 06:20:10
10 February 2015 at 21:50 #179274
charadam
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What!

You mean I could have bought them cheaper?
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