Workshop in this weather..?

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

The Spanish have the right idea if you want to be efficient

Do an early morning shift up to noon

Do an evening shift

The PM is a writeoff, unless you are a mad dog or an englishman

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Posted by Peter G. Shaw on 01/07/2018 20:34:58:

One cannot win.

Yes you can – with insulation. If the roof is not pathetically week put some pallets on it. As you get more break them up for the slats to fill in the gaps. Tis will provide a ventilated gap to reduce summer temperature while you insulate inside ready for winter. If the cost of insulation is too high use corrugated cardboard – better than nothing.

[thaiguzziParticipant @thaiguzzi]

Ze Englisch!

Ha.

Moan when it's rainy & cold , moan when it's warm, let alone hot.

Regards,

Englishman enjoying the rainy season, average daily temps of early 30's (and unfortunate high humidity)….

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by thaiguzzi on 02/07/2018 06:04:55

… (and unfortunate high humidity)….

That is the only thing that bothers me. I can warm the workshop, if cold, and it is not that hot in mine at present, anyway. It does have lots of insulation and no direct sunlight shining in.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

I taught my son how to change the washer on a loft-tank ballcock yesterday morning when it was 29C downstairs and humid. Under the tiles it was much hotter. We dripped sweat. I cursed the Victorian plumber who thought it smart to put a water tank in the roof space where it can freeze in winter while requiring maintenance to be done balanced on a joist. My son dropped the split pin into the tank and decided not to take up plumbing!

Dave

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

When my parents lived in Central Otago (NZ), I helped dad to put in fibre glass insulation in the roof space. Being a typical Kiwi home it had a tin roof, and it was summertime in the hottest part of the country (in summer). One thing we did do was to make sure the tank up there had no insulation under it, and the pipes were under the insulation. Many others at that time had been insulating the ceiling of there houses, and leaving the pipes on top, and putting it under the tank, the plumber was rushed off his feet when winter came with 10* to 15* + frosts (coldest place in NZ in the winter). The plumbing needs a bit of heat from below. In the summertime they got warm water from the cold tap.

Ian S C

Edited By Ian S C on 02/07/2018 13:52:08

[David TParticipant @davidt96864]

My workshop is screened by trees to the south and is easily the coolest place on our property. It does get rather cold in winter though. SWMBO's wood turning / carving shed is in the direct sun and is like a kiln. As part of a garden remodel we shall be replacing that shed, and we're strongly contemplating a "green roof" for whatever replaces it.

[Ron LadenParticipant @ronladen17547]

My workshop faces due south, one end is shaded until 10am then it gets full sun all day until the sun goes down. Mid afternoon in the weather we have been having I reckon you could just about cook an egg on a steel plate in there.

[Martin 100Participant @martin100]

Oodles of high grade insulation, vented cavity behind the cladding, shading of windows with an overhang, a green roof, and a solar air heater that was automatically rejecting any external heat input back to atmosphere before breakfast this morning.

Indoor Temperature? controlled around 18 deg C as it has been for the past few years right around the clock winter spring summer and autumn plus or minus a degree or so. Short sleeve weather every single hour of every single day of the year.

No wood burner needed, no need to chop any fuel, no energy input other than that from the sun, that dissipated from the machines and some occupancy heat, zero CO2 emissions, properly ventilated but with no need for open doors.

[Another JohnSParticipant @anotherjohns]

Workshop? Freezing cold these days. Air-conditioning running, cold air seeks the basement.

However, yesterday we had our annual "Canada Day" steamup – setting up a portable track, running, then tearing down said track. I think the temperature was something like 36 in the shade, with a "humidex" reading of 47.

Of course, 6 months from now, it'll be -36, with a "windchill" reading of -47.

If you are thinking "why do they do this, are they crazy?", don't worry – we are having the same thoughts.

JohnS.

[nigel jones 5Participant @nigeljones5]

I have a portable ac unit in my workshop but it simply cannot cope with this heat, hence not much done after 11am

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

UK is def not as bad as Ca. I remember bussing down to Ottawa city centre one day, already thinking ‘is this a bad idea?’ I walked through one store – in one door and out onto another street – and caught the same bus, I think, back to my SiL’s house.

[DalboyParticipant @dalboy]

I am new to model engineering and as of yet not set up to make even the simplest of things but still go into the shed for some woodturning mornings are great as the workshop is in the shade of a big tree. Once the afternoon arrives then it is into the house for a good book to read, and the book in question is "Model Engineering a Foundation Course" by Peter Wright.

Just out of interest is it a good book to read as I have only just started it

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

My shed is made from Structural Insulated Panels:- Cement bonded chipboars on the outside, OSB on the inside and 5" of PU foam between. Floor is 8" of concrete sitting on top of 4" of EPS foam. Split unit heat pump keeps it cosy all year round. Cost me a lot of dosh to build it in 2004, but was a wonderful investment. It's good sound insulation as well, so the neighbours can barely hear the machines running and can't hear Planet Rock blasting out over the noise of the machines!

 

The heat pump It isn't free to run, but but averages about 300W through the year, That's to keep a 30m^2 shed at 21°C all year.

Edited By Mark Rand on 02/07/2018 20:47:35

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

Those in the UK just think 'Summer of 76'

[Colin HeseltineParticipant @colinheseltine48622]

I remember 1976. Snowed on31st May or 1st June then scorched for next few months. I was in Round Table at the time and we spend a lot of time on Cannock Chase volunteering with Fire Brigade helping to beat out fires. Alos diod quite a lot of rally servicing that year and all the reservoirs water levels in Wales very low.

Colin

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Summer of 76, I was in my reckless youth then, and a group of us did the Lyke Wake Walk on the North York Moors, a walk of some 40 odd miles across the moors to be completed inside 24 hours. It was absolutely scorching, we were drenched in sweat when the sun came up at 4.00 am, we started early hoping it would be a little cooler no such luck. 76 was a scorcher of a year and yes we completed the walk having to skirt round areas on fire where the peat was burning underground.

Dave W

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

"Those in the UK just think 'Summer of 76'" …

and the winter of '47!! For those too young to have been around, we froze for about 12 weeks and had 10' snow drifts in Cornwall!! and rationing and a fuel shortage as well … ah! the good old days!

rgds

Bill

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

I was around for the winter of 47 but don’t remember it having been born in 46, remember my parents would recall the tales of hardship during that icy winter.

Dave W

[Nick Clarke 3Participant @nickclarke3]

Regarding the winter of '47 ( way before I was born I hasten to add!) go to Youtube and search for the British Transport film 'Snowdrift at Bleath Gill'.YI first showed this to the school railway society as a 16mm film borrowed from the British Transport Film Library more than 50 years ago.It is still great!

Nick

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Nick Clarke 3 on 04/07/2018 18:09:41:

Regarding the winter of '47 ( way before I was born I hasten to add!) go to Youtube and search for the British Transport film 'Snowdrift at Bleath Gill'.YI first showed this to the school railway society as a 16mm film borrowed from the British Transport Film Library more than 50 years ago.It is still great!

Nick

Excellent, did you see that one of the commentators was Derek Guyler! "I'll get you Blakey!"

[Nick Clarke 3Participant @nickclarke3]

And while on the subject of memorable winters –

1963 when with my brothers and sisters we created a superb slide around a corner of the path that surrounded our house – full speed and then almost on one elbow as we went round the corner – unfortunately this was the corner where patients came in through the gate leading to my father's GP surgery…..!

After the first casualty we all got belted and the slide was salted!

Andmuch later on in 1982 when my flatmate at uni came back from Christmas to find that while his car (1963 mini) ould start it was frozen to the ground and stalled every time you tried to move it!

[Richard S2Participant @richards2]

The '47' Winter film footage was Talking Pictures TV a while back. Not around that year, but the 62/63 winter remains in my memory.

'76' was a fair experience for me, being at Gatwick and dealing with the issues of reduced Aircraft Performance due to the higher temperatures towards the end of June into July. The BAC 1-11s had to carry Demin Water and pumps to the Channel Islands for use on the return flight. Restricted Take off Weights were imposed on HPR Dart Heralds even !. Looking back on it these days, it was really an enjoyable challenge. Love the heat.

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

back in the big freeze of the early 60s I was at secondary school. Right down one side was a fairly steeply sloping path, so we made a very long, fast slide. Then along comes one of the physics teachers, not to close it down but to ask if he can have a go! Happy days indeed.

Edited By duncan webster on 04/07/2018 18:44:36

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

**LINK**

7 1/2 minutes of steam and snow in ‘63.

Would the UK cope, with weather like that, in these days?

One of my jobs in ‘76 was to measure the flow of the river so that we did not pump it dry, for process water in the works. It got close.

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