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    James A
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      James A
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        @jamesalford67616

        I am currently fitting out a new garage workshop and wonder what other people use for the workbench top.

        Previously, I have used kitchen worktop, but I wonder whether there is anything which is preferable, affordable and readily available.

        I shall be using the bench for general car repair work, woodwork, light model engineering and the 1001 odd jobs that can never really be categorised. It needs to be oil, solvent and water resistant.

        Regards,

        James.

         

        Edited By James Alford on 20/03/2020 07:07:24

        #458316
        Speedy Builder5
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          @speedybuilder5

          I would go for a wooden worktop if you love carpentry and my choice would be solid beech, ash or oak. You need something solid so that it doesn't 'bounce' around when you are chiseling etc. Then have a 3mm aluminium alloy plate that you lay on top for everything else. I just have an oak worktop which gets heavily abused with oil, acid and stuff. When I have a major carpentry job on, I just run the orbital sander over into clean it up. The worktop is 2" thick, so like a butcher's block, it will last my days out. A cheaper alternative is to buy an 8 x 4 sheet of 3/4"ply, cut down the centre and glue both sheets together to make a nice thick work top.

          Other cheaper ideas are builders planks, planed on one side only.

          #458317
          Matt C
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            @mattc

            James, this has been discussed previously.

            Type bench covering into the keyword box at the top of the page.

            This will bring up some previous threads on the subject which may give you some ideas.

            Regards

            MattC

            #458318
            David George 1
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              @davidgeorge1

              When at work we used solid planks about 2 inch thick and about 8 inch wide and they had a piece of oil tempered hardboard on top which was replaced every year as run down to Christmas and the clean up. But in a home workshop, not working on up to 5 tonn tooling, kitchen worktop is adequate for me but if any heat is involved it is soon damaged by hot metal or a blow torch going awol. If you are going to have a large vice to hold parts it is better fitting it to a wooden top or a section reinforced to take the pulling and hammering a vice may get. You only build a bench once look at the storage underneath as well and what you need to store and still find what is there in a few years. Try and look at pictures of benches that others gave made or bought.

              David

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                @formermember19781

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                #458333
                Douglas Johnston
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                  @douglasjohnston98463

                  Thick kitchen worktop is hard to beat, you can sometimes get slightly damaged ones at a good price from local diy outlets ( I am often amazed at how many they seem to damage during transit or inside the store ). Good sturdy wooden framework under the top, don't use the flimsy kitchen units. If mounting a small lathe, a concrete or granite slab on top of the worktop gives a very good rigid base on which to mount the machine.

                  Doug

                  #458339
                  martin perman 1
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                    @martinperman1

                    I used a worktop I was given by a neigbour, I covered that with a sheet of steel to protect from severe damage.

                    Martin P

                    #458341
                    Vic
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                      @vic

                      Where I used to work I bought Lino topped work benches for my print department and they proved to be very good. When it came to setting up my latest workshop I decided on two pieces of 18mm ply glued and screwed together and then topped with some nice grey Lino. Given the choice I wouldn’t hesitate to do this again. If I had the space for it I would like a steel topped bench as well – say 1/4” plate but I don’t have the space.

                      #458346
                      SillyOldDuffer
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                        @sillyoldduffer

                        Hard to beat Kitchen Worktop for affordable suitability. It's about the right depth, fairly hard-wearing, and is oil, solvent and water resistant. Might even be free from a skip! Available in several colours – I go for plain white because it makes the stuff I do easier to see. Others might prefer dark.

                        What may matter more is what's underneath. Thought it takes plenty of weight when properly supported kitchen worktop won't bridge wide gaps without bending.

                        Mine has a slight lip at the front which is both annoying and useful. The lip stops small parts rolling off, but I can't lay big stuff flat on it.

                        Some people like a sheet metal top, and Bill's hardboard suggestion is good for temporary work. David George mentions an oiled hardboard top that's changed every year. Yes!

                        Always worth asking what the worktop is for. Beyond the obvious that a proper woodworking bench is unsuitable for clockmaking, and vice-versa, what's your goal? My workshop is entirely utilitarian. It's a mess, full of inexpensive tools that get used. Though I clear the decks for safety reasons and when space is needed, and tools are kept where they should be, I don't care what my workshop looks like. To me tools are disposable; provided they do what I want, that's good enough. Others enjoy tidy, clean, workshops and expensive heirloom tools. Some worry about who makes the best spanners in the world and keep them in glittering professional-grade tool cabinets. In an extreme case, the hobby consists of pottering in a wonderful workshop without actually using it.

                        Nothing wrong with people indulging themselves however they please – it's a hobby. My point is, choosing a worktop might be more to do with individual opinion rather than raw practicality. The second-hand kitchen worktop that suits me could be utterly hateful to my best mate. I might think he's daft spending good money on solid beech, but it's none of my business. We're dancing to different tunes.

                        What's the reason for asking? If your kitchen worktop failed for practical reasons, it should be possible to suggest alternatives. Other suggestions if the reason for wanting to upgrade is cosmetic. Either way it's likely the alternatives will more expensive than kitchen worktop…

                        Dave

                        #458363
                        Bazyle
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                          @bazyle

                          If mounting a lathe, mill or car engine make sure there is real wood under a kitchen worktop as the chipboard can give way suddenly. No point in using expensive hardwood if it is going to be covered. I have the hardboard cover mentioned by others over skip find planks and ex Victorian rafters from a neighbour's loft conversion. Keep the top under 3 in thick or you will need bigger G-clamps.

                          Not quite on topic but I've recently seen adverts for woodworkers benches with hardwood tops and two vices. You probably have seen them too. They are utter rubbish. I bought a lathe last year from a small company and it was on one of these benches. They had obviously broken the vice part and relegated it to the little used metal lathe. The top is only 1 in thick laminated blocks and the vice support rods run directly in the timber edging. It kind of looks fancy though so it is getting an additional 2in of seasoned scraps under the top and proper leg framing. It will still be light enough to move around so not a serious bench.

                          #458365
                          ega
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                            @ega

                            Has anyone mentioned MDF?

                            A friend gave me a couple of sheets of 18mm material which in double thickness and finished with PU varnish have made made quite a decent bench for woodworking. Ideally, you would use the moisture resistant or other superior grade of MDF.

                            #458369
                            Dalboy
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                              @dalboy

                              When I made my bench for my workshop I added a sacrificial hardboard top which is cheap enough to replace should the need be. This means that I could make the bench from pine if I so wished with an oak border which is also hard wearing as well as hold the hardboard in place.

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                              norman valentine
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                                In my recently built workshop I used 8×2 pine topped with 6mm mdf. With sufficient support it is more than enough and changing the mdf when it is damaged is not that expensive.

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                                  Brian H
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                                    My worktops came from a reclamation yard. They were used as shuttering for casting bridges etc on local road building projects and appear to be an exterior ply with a coating to prevent the cement from sticking. Mine have the trademark "PERI".

                                    Perhaps we have a member who works in the construction industry who could elaborate.

                                    Brian

                                    #458381
                                    jimmy b
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                                      @jimmyb

                                      I use plywood and top that with cutting mats

                                      Jim

                                      #458393
                                      HOWARDT
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                                        @howardt

                                        My main worktop in the shed is three six foot lengths of 6×4 I think beech on three supports. I think the whole thing is probably around seventy years old. My father, who built it originally, worked in a pattern making firm all his life, except for six years in the RAF during the war. He used to say that the factory floor was covered in teak planks as that was used as ballast on returning ships after the war. Hopefully the bench will get handed on when I am ready.

                                        #458402
                                        Howard Lewis
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                                          @howardlewis46836

                                          Normal worktop should be fine, from the strength point of view, as long as it is properly supported. But for metal work, I would suggest a sheet of Aluminium or steel, of about 18 gauge, to minimise damage to the worktop, and debris getting into the workpiece.

                                          If you want to cushion a workpiece, you can always lay it on a piece of hardboard or ply.

                                          Howard

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                                          Ian Johnson 1
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                                            Posted by Brian H on 20/03/2020 12:53:00:

                                            My worktops came from a reclamation yard. They were used as shuttering for casting bridges etc on local road building projects and appear to be an exterior ply with a coating to prevent the cement from sticking. Mine have the trademark "PERI".

                                            Perhaps we have a member who works in the construction industry who could elaborate.

                                            Brian

                                            PERI are a German construction company specialising in Formwork and scaffolding. The photo shows their formwork system on the Mersey Gateway central pier under construction four years ago.

                                            2016-04-20 20apr16 central pier.jpg

                                            And I would think ithe shuttering would make a very good worktop too!

                                            Ian

                                            #458416
                                            lfoggy
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                                              @lfoggy

                                              Some very good suggestions.

                                              I am about to install a 2.4m wide workbench and have purchased a new 40mm thick solid beech kitchen worktop as the top surface. £165 for a 3m length. Solid oak is not that much more.

                                              #458423
                                              not done it yet
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                                                @notdoneityet

                                                I’m with Howard apart from two points. ‘Normal’ these days for kitchen worktops might be 30mm – or even less. I reckon thicker is better – as practical limitations allow. Our kitchen worktop is 40mm.

                                                Second point is cover with something that is replaceable on a regular basis or as needed. Lino offcuts are cheap. That might even go over the top of Howards suggestion of an aluminium sheet.

                                                Mine are laboratory cupboards destined for the college skip.

                                                #458425
                                                norman valentine
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                                                  @normanvalentine78682

                                                  There have been some good suggestions for worktops but my suggestion of 8×2 with 6mm mdf top would only cost around £50. If you have money to waste……

                                                  Edited By norman valentine on 20/03/2020 16:54:57

                                                  #458527
                                                  James A
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                                                    @jamesalford67616

                                                    Thank you fo rall of the suggestions and idea. I shall have a good think and see what I can get, especially with the current restrictions.

                                                    I would rather avoid anything which needs to be replaced periodically. There will be a vice or two, a grinder, belt sander, bench drill and Dremel drill stand bolted down on it and I do not relish rmoving them each time. Metal topping sounds interesting, as does treated MDF.

                                                    Regards,

                                                    James.

                                                    #458619
                                                    old mart
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                                                      @oldmart

                                                      When I made a bench, I bought a sheet of marine ply 19mm thick which was cut into two 6 X 2 and one 4 X 2. The large pieces were glued and screwed together for the main top and the back was held up by a length of 4" square bolted to the wall. The rest of the frame was 4" square and 2" by 6" held together with tenons and glue. The two legs were also attached to the floor with angle plates and rawlbolts. The bench was pretty rigid and a woodworking vise was built in at the same time. I made the 4" Paramo metal working vise QD in case I wanted a clear space.

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