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  • #441838
    Windy
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      @windy30762

      I got 2 of these at a car boot years ago would like to know what they are.

      The manufacturer was taken over by AVO is it part of some test equipment or motor, generator.

      One is brand new in a sealed package.

      Evershed & Vignoles Ltd London W4

      FBRX6A/H3/C

      No H6532

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      Edited By Windy on 16/12/2019 12:28:01

      Edited By Windy on 16/12/2019 12:28:38

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      #27013
      Windy
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        @windy30762

        What is it

        #441840
        Bazyle
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          @bazyle

          Does the axle rotate freely or just a part turn? Probably some kind of position sensor but a syncro normally has more connections. Have you put an ohm meter across it and rotated the shaft?

          #441841
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            @mgnbuk

            Possibly a tacho generator ? Colour & painted on markings look like those seen on military equipment, so maybe a TG from an engine to drive a tachometer remotely on an instrument panel. If you have a DC meter, try connecting to the terminals & spin the shaft to see if it generates a small voltage – the voltage will be proportional to the speed.

            I've used similar looking devices for speed feedback on machine tool spindle motors – usually 60v/1000rpm in that application. No real current available, though – the windings are optimised to provide an accurate voltage with low ripple.

            Nigel B

            #441845
            Bill Davies 2
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              @billdavies2

              I know it can't be an aircraft flight display instrument, but the mounting looks similar. Also, the white markings on the side are similar to those on some instruments I have. I think they are written on after maintenance.

              Bill

              #441846
              Stuart Bridger
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                @stuartbridger82290

                I would also say tacho generator and aviation related. Evershed were acquired in 1965, so it is older than that.

                The part number does show up on google with FBRT1051015 as an associated part, bit no real detail other than hits on aviation part sourcing websites.

                A search on ebay for "evershed tacho generator" does bring back some more modern variants

                #441847
                Windy
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                  @windy30762
                  Posted by mgnbuk on 16/12/2019 12:45:13:

                  Possibly a tacho generator ? Colour & painted on markings look like those seen on military equipment, so maybe a TG from an engine to drive a tachometer remotely on an instrument panel. If you have a DC meter, try connecting to the terminals & spin the shaft to see if it generates a small voltage – the voltage will be proportional to the speed.

                  I've used similar looking devices for speed feedback on machine tool spindle motors – usually 60v/1000rpm in that application. No real current available, though – the windings are optimised to provide an accurate voltage with low ripple.

                  Nigel B

                                Just rotated it at about 500rpm on the lathe and got 1.47v.

                  Edited By Windy on 16/12/2019 13:38:40

                  #441848
                  Speedy Builder5
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                    @speedybuilder5

                    Search results for: 101C031189

                    https://www.iso-group.com/NSN/6105-99-622-2336

                    NSN 6105-99-622-2336, 6105996222336
                    MOTOR,DIRECT CURREN

                    Federal Supply Classification
                    FSC 6105 – Motors, Electrical
                    National Item Identification Number
                    NIIN 996222336
                    Codification Country
                    United Kingdom
                    #441851
                    Andrew Tinsley
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                      @andrewtinsley63637

                      I believe it is a stelson, used to transmit rotation via a shaft to an inaccessible location. The rotation was usually a control input.

                      They were used on submarines and later to control very high voltage sources such as pressurised Van der Graafs and other linear accelerators.

                      I had some on a 3Mev Van der Graaf that I used to produce proton and alpha particle beams.

                      Andrew.

                      #441859
                      Phil Whitley
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                        @philwhitley94135

                        I believe it is a DC motor or perhaps even a solenoid? start with 6V across it, probably runs fine on 12V. I can find no reference to a "stelson", and firmly believe that Mr Tinsley may be giving us a yuletide yanking!

                        Edited By Phil Whitley on 16/12/2019 15:51:37

                        #441869
                        Keith Long
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                          @keithlong89920

                          I think Andrew might be thinking of a "selsyn"

                          #441881
                          Phil Whitley
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                            @philwhitley94135

                            Ah, a selsyn, I take it all back, not a wind up after all!

                            Selsyn or synchro is an electro-mechanical device used for the easy and precise transmission of angular data between two or more remote points. The readings may be provided in terms of mechanical position or as an electrical signal. Selsyn is a portmanteau of 'self-synchronous'.

                            TY Mr Long!

                            #441882
                            Phil Whitley
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                              @philwhitley94135

                              Ah, a selsyn, I take it all back, not a wind up after all!

                              Selsyn or synchro is an electro-mechanical device used for the easy and precise transmission of angular data between two or more remote points. The readings may be provided in terms of mechanical position or as an electrical signal. Selsyn is a portmanteau of 'self-synchronous'.

                              TY Mr Long!

                              #441888
                              Andrew Tinsley
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                                @andrewtinsley63637

                                Hello Keith,

                                A very senior moment. I did intend to type selsyn. However I just happen to be doing some plumbing and using a stelson! A red face and apologies to all.

                                Andrew.

                                #441891
                                Robert Atkinson 2
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                                  @robertatkinson2

                                  Speedy builder 5 is correct, t's a DC motor.

                                  Robert G8RPI.

                                  #441902
                                  Phil Whitley
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                                    @philwhitley94135

                                    you mean "Stilsons" pipe wrench!

                                    #441912
                                    Nicholas Farr
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                                      @nicholasfarr14254
                                      Posted by Phil Whitley on 16/12/2019 18:04:34:

                                      you mean "Stilsons" pipe wrench!

                                      Hi, or even Stillson, see Stillson wrench

                                      Regards Nick.

                                      Edited By Nicholas Farr on 16/12/2019 19:09:35

                                      #441921
                                      Neil Wyatt
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                                        @neilwyatt

                                        No, yopu are all wrong.

                                        He means a Stetson, he's a cowboy plumber…

                                        face 20

                                        Neil

                                        #441926
                                        Windy
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                                          @windy30762

                                          Have run it on 12v and seems to be ok will be seeing a club member who is into electrics and Vignoles

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