What Did You Do Today (2017)

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Thank you Murray – "You can now apply the time and money to the purchase of some suitable workshop equipment by way of celebration" … ummmmm, well, no!!! The one thing I do NOT want is more equipment. I need to get rid of lots – like 2 r/c helicopters, 6 lathes, 10 motors, geared and ungeared, 3 tool grinders (kits and complete) sets of castings, job lots of small electric motors and so on and so on.50+ years of workshop 'magpie – ing' has made the workshop and garage into an assault course – and it all started with a Stanley knife!!.

rgds

Bill

[Tony JeffreeParticipant @tonyjeffree56510]

Posted by Cornish Jack on 17/10/2017 14:38:23:

Thank you Murray – "You can now apply the time and money to the purchase of some suitable workshop equipment by way of celebration" … ummmmm, well, no!!! The one thing I do NOT want is more equipment. I need to get rid of lots – like 2 r/c helicopters, 6 lathes, 10 motors, geared and ungeared, 3 tool grinders (kits and complete) sets of castings, job lots of small electric motors and so on and so on.50+ years of workshop 'magpie – ing' has made the workshop and garage into an assault course – and it all started with a Stanley knife!!.

rgds

Bill

Amazing what you can achieve with a Stanley knife…

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

Posted by Mike on 17/10/2017 14:31:17:

Hi Murray, It's the same up here on the Moray Firth coast. We are only about 150 yards from the sea, and after a northerly blow everything is covered in salt. I notice that the "brass" fittings on my relatively new £2000 front door are corroding. Anyone know of a good clear varnish to prevent this problem, as everything I have tried on other such fittings doesn't seem to last for one winter.

Are you sure it's the Brass not the coating on the Brass that is being attacked?

Martin

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Just for interest- for jobs like the window repair the plastic chopping boards sold in supermarkets are very useful and quite cheap. Come in a few thicknesses, I've got thu' a few now.

[John GardenerParticipant @johngardener91897]

It's not 'engineering' it's not gun-smithing, it's the completion of building my kit Baker. What I did today was fire fifteen shots, yes, there is one missing, but my smile is no smaller for all that. Who knows, the group may get smaller when I have fitted some sights! One very happy bunny here. Fired with 36 grains and 72 grains. The 72 grain 'group' is the seven shots top right hand corner/

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Thanks Martin: yes, it's the brass – or what passes for it – that's being attacked. I suspect it's brass-plated monkey metal, and the letter box flap seems to be anodised aluminium.

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

They seem to be zinc alloy and I've no idea what the plating is. If it's chrome, it must be less than wafer thin. Certainly, when they say "polished gold" and "platinum", I'm thinking that is just a generic description!

Either way, within a month or so of the new doors being fitted (patio and personnel), the handles were bubbling up with some sort of electrolytic action. I got them changed to anodised "silver" but I think they will simply decay more slowly. I suspect that powder coated would be a better choice.

Murray

[RobinParticipant @robin]

Posted by John Gardener fire fifteen shots

Well one of them worked. Maybe you need to stand a bit closer

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

It might be more (or less) impressive if we knew the range

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Muzzer we live in a marine type of environment on the Sussex coast and had powder coated door handles on our exterior doors, no better than the plated monkey metal versions. Had to bite the bullet and replaced them with stainless versions and so far still pristine.

Dave

[Peter KroghParticipant @peterkrogh76576]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/10/2017 22:04:39:

It might be more (or less) impressive if we knew the range

And the bore, bullet, patch, bbl length……. I build and shoot flintlock rifles of the 1770 period in Pennsylvania, so I'm very interested!!!

Pete

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Baker Rifle built by an average Englishman and aimed by him? Range at least 600 metres for that group!

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

Slightly mind-boggling service!! Robbo's pointer to my window striker plate was timed at 12.28.55 yesterday. I ordered two off shortly afterwards. I now sit here at 11.33 having just opened the package with the two pieces!!! I shall contact them to remark on this level of service!

rgds

Bill

Just 'phoned them and even more remarkably they are on the W coast of Scotland and were hit by Ophelia and are still clearing up!! Quite extraordinary!

B

Edited By Cornish Jack on 18/10/2017 11:53:35

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Posted by Samsaranda on 17/10/2017 22:34:50:

Muzzer we live in a marine type of environment on the Sussex coast and had powder coated door handles on our exterior doors, no better than the plated monkey metal versions. Had to bite the bullet and replaced them with stainless versions and so far still pristine.

Dave

Interesting – can you recommend a brand / range? I'm looking for a handle with Euro lock, compatible with the ones shown in the link. "Real" stainless would be a step forward.

Murray

[John GardenerParticipant @johngardener91897]

Alas (and thanks for the vote of confidence silly old duffer) only 30 yards. .615 bore, undersized .600 ball and .015 greased patch. Swiss number two in both barrel and pan, primimg powder being so more expensive. The first phase of test complete I plan now to work up loads with a .610 ball, to test and prove my limited skills befor I get 'serious'. I was, as you can imagine, quite apprehensive when I fired the first one or two. Pete, I'll let you know how I get on because I have very quickly become hooked on flinters!

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Hi Muzzer, bought mine from the Ironmongery Direct website, plenty of Euro lock compatible versions to choose from, good website to deal with, prompt despatch of goods. I have no association with the company other than a very satisfied customer.

Dave

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

I'm afraid there was an outbreak of The Brown Stuff in the workshop this evening but I'm pleased to say I've contained it now. At the weekend I was at B&Q getting some bags of concrete and picked up sixteen 2.4m lengths of 2"x1" treated battens with a view to finally making up some duckboards for the machines. I have to admit I often (usually) end up wearing my slippers in the workshop. Yes, more M&S than H&S but worst of all so far has been the swarf that gets embedded in the soles and ends up all over the house. The domestic manager hadn't twigged yet but it would be only a matter of time.

Although completely and totally unnecessary, I modelled them up in Fusion as an exercise in using the parameter table to drive the configuration and dimensions. I was also trying to sus out how to create a series of near-duplicate 2D drawings with slightly different base parts. I set it up with user parameters that specified the number of longitudinal and lateral slats, along with the width and depth dimensions. Then created a 2D drawing for each showing the centre positions, slat lengths etc. Saved me measuring and marking ten times and still cutting and drilling in the wrong places.

Fusion is still not there when it comes to copying models and their associated drawings. To create a duplicate set, you have to archive the 2D drawing (using the A360 cloud control panel), then upload it again, back into Fusion. At that point you can rename the new files and create your alternative models / drawings. I'm sure they will get there at some point but right now it needs this work around.

The actual chopping up and screwing together was simple and quick in comparison, using a circular saw to cut bundles to the same length and a collated screwdriver (bandoliers of screws) to slap drywall screws in. I'm hopeful that these screws will be moderately rustproof.

Job done, finally!

Murray

[Perko7Participant @perko7]

Today i cleaned and lubricated both lathes, which brings me to a question. Does anyone else on this forum have a loathing for the 'ball oilers' fitted to most modern chinese or asian lathes? I find them a proverbial pain. First you have to try and clean all around them, including the crevice between the protruding part of the ball and the brass housing. Then you grab your oil can and depress the ball with the tip of the spout while pumping the lever. Because the ball oilers are often tiny, you have no idea if the tip of the oil can is actually depressing the ball as your view of the ball is completely obscured. Then you still have no idea if any oil is actually getting in to where it's needed, so you end up flooding the surrounding area with oil while trying to pump as much in as you can. Finally, some of the balls have so little free movement that it's surprising any oil gets in at all.

By contrast, oiling my 1929 Ideal consisted of cleaning around the holes, removing a piece of wadding, dribbling in a suitable quantity of oil, and replacing the wadding. Took 1/5 of the time and i know the oil has got to where it needs to be.

[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

Yes Geoff, I have them on my Boxford shaper,never quite sure if enough oil is getting where I want it, short of dismantling the machine to remove them by driving out from underneath how can they be removed? When I got my shaper it was stripped and these oilers were blown through to clear and they seemed fine now am not so sure

Mick

[Sam Longley 1Participant @samlongley1]

Posted by Muzzer on 19/10/2017 20:03:38:

Although completely and totally unnecessary, I modelled them up in Fusion as an exercise in using the parameter table to drive the configuration and dimensions. I was also trying to sus out how to create a series of near-duplicate 2D drawings with slightly different base parts. I set it up with user parameters that specified the number of longitudinal and lateral slats, along with the width and depth dimensions. Then created a 2D drawing for each showing the centre positions, slat lengths etc. Saved me measuring and marking ten times and still cutting and drilling in the wrong places.

Fusion is still not there when it comes to copying models and their associated drawings. To create a duplicate set, you have to archive the 2D drawing (using the A360 cloud control panel), then upload it again, back into Fusion. At that point you can rename the new files and create your alternative models / drawings. I'm sure they will get there at some point but right now it needs this work around.

Murray

Wow! using Fusion to set out a thing like that !! things have really moved on from the days when one would have used a stick as a rod & a pair of dividers.

I hope there are no youngsters reading this on how such a project might be completed

I suppose it must kind of explain why it takes so long to get anything done in this country anymore doesn't it !!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Oh come on !!! it is in jest !!!!

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 20/10/2017 08:51:21

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

You want modern?

Last night I 3D printed a wing panel!

I've realised that although a bit heavier than balsa it is much lighter and the design can be greatly improved

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

Geoff and Mick – On the Ball Oilers-

Those little ball oil inserts work very well – I would not swap for any other methods. They are standard on the EMCO machines, and all my EMCO lathes and Mills have them – Work easily, well and always – just clean the tip before oiling.

BUT you must use a proper oiler – designed for the job – else it like using a monkey-wrench on a 8BA nut..

here is a link to the appropriate oiler – an inline push-to-oil high pressure oiler – there are versions than can take oil or grease = Called Push Guns, among other names:

**LINK**

Look Here at 'Telescopic Hand Guns for Grease and Oil'

**LINK**

And another:

**LINK**

These just work..

Joe

[RobinParticipant @robin]

Posted by Muzzer on 19/10/2017 20:03:38:

the swarf that gets embedded in the soles and ends up all over the house. The domestic manager hadn't twigged yet but it would be only a matter of time

There was a rumour that swarf sinks in to the pile of the carpet and then saws it gently apart. I have never given this notion any credence, I have certainly never bothered to mention it to her indoors.

But Muzzer's workshop is so tidy there is no swarf, I can only think he is using CNC. If you don't have to turn the handles there is very little to do apart from make tea and tidy up.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 20/10/2017 08:51:01:

Posted by Muzzer on 19/10/2017 20:03:38:.

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I hope there are no youngsters reading this on how such a project might be completed

I suppose it must kind of explain why it takes so long to get anything done in this country anymore doesn't it !!!!

Oh come on !!! it is in jest !!!!

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 20/10/2017 08:51:21

Sam, you got me good and proper!

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

In my limited experience treated timber can be very bad for steel fixings. Drywall screws ,with philips cross heads and black finish, seem to rust very easily. Not surprising really, it's not what they are made for.

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