Side valve lap.

[BOB BLACKSHAW 1Participant @bobblackshaw1]

Understanding the basics for the need of a lap on a side valve on a cylinder using steam for the cushioning effect, would a lap using compressed air have the same principal as steam. As steam loses heat with condensation its a total different form of energy than just compressed air,I'm asking the question as any minimal play in a engine will cause a knocking noise with out a lap. Putting a lap on the stuff I've made would be a waist of time as the eccentric will have to be remade, so the question is for future projects.

Bob

[BOB BLACKSHAW 1Participant @bobblackshaw1]

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

A lot will depend on what you are doing with the engine. If just ticking over on a couple of psi of air for display it will not make a lot of difference. On the other hand if you are using that engine under load which will require a higher pressure and at higher speeds then it may give smoother running.

You will also need to alter the actual slide valve to give that lap not just the eccentric which moves it.

Now if you were just to adjust the position of the eccentric that would alter the lead and when the air is admitted to the cylinder, this is what will allow air into the cylinder before the piston reaches the end and have a cushioning effect.

I think it is lead that you are asking about not lap.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

A Jason says, increasing the lead helps engines run smoother on air.

Neil

[geoff walker 1Participant @geoffwalker1]

A Jason says, increasing the lead helps engines run smoother on air.

Neil

….and he also suggests that adding lap may also make the engine run smoother on air.

It puzzled me why a model engine maker would add lap to the slide valve if they only intended to run the engine on compressed air.

Lap is used, as I understand it, to exploit the expansive properties of steam. Without lap a whole cylinderful of steam is used for each stroke of the piston. Adding lap, without going into detail, utilises the expansive properties of the steam resulting in the engine using less steam and thus being more efficient.

I think I can see what Jason is thinking, at high speeds and with considerable momentum does the engine need a whole cylinderful of air for each stroke?

Just my thoughts guys

Geoff

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I don't think a lot of people building engines to run on air actually add lap. More likely they don't remove the lap when the build from drawings that have lap on them for running on steam.

If the engine has reversing gear than you don't have to use full notch to save air/steam so that is the other way to get more efficient steam usage as it effectively alters the amount of time the port is open just like fixed lap does.

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