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[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

hi , I construct a POW ….for the six wheels tender , I don't see anywhere the spacing between the frames ….

the drawing is poor and incomplete ,no rivets or fixation visible , no interior detail and York is 1000 miles away !

a little help was needed ! thanks epine 43 from France

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

ME issues 3422-23-24-25-26 have the tender

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

I have them ( and the reeves drawing)…..only one half page of text for the six wheels tender , no dimension for the chassis ,, no rivets , no fixation , no interior , near nothing !

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

You may be able to use the net for details

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[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

I am on the net … the more needed detail is the spacing between the frame….

for the interior , the laser-cut parts give me a good view how it was.

I think this tender was riveted , but Reeves drawings was blank !

thanks

[John BaguleyParticipant @johnbaguley78655]

In the articles Martin says that the POW tender is very similar in construction to the tender for Nigel Gresley so I would say that the distance between the frames should be 6.375"

John

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

ah, ah , my first estimation was 160mm, so 162 mm is a good base !

the numerous photos on the net don't give little détails….

I have already buy photos , by NR of Yok , or e-bay, but always taken from the front angle !

the nigel gresley tender was interesting……it was exactly the same , or not ? it's possible to buy a drawing ? , and where ? Reeves ?

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I have put the gresley tender pages in my album

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

I have the drawing set for Nigel Gresley and the wheel centres are not equal 7 7/16" and 6 5/16" I thought there should be 8 wheels not the 6 of Nigel Gresley.

Bob

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 17/01/2015 19:57:42

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

many thanks ! all what I need are on the Gresley drawings….I hope to imprim these …

the 8 wheels tender is normally detailed on the Reeves drawings , not the six wheels !

[John BaguleyParticipant @johnbaguley78655]

Some of the singles did run with a smaller 6 wheel tender later in life.

I think Martin refered readers to the Nigel Gresley tender for the general construction of the tender chassis. He only gives very brief details for the POW 6 wheel tender i.e. the frame plates and a general arrangement drawing. No details of buffer beams, frame stretchers etc.

John

[Bob YouldonParticipant @bobyouldon45599]

Good evening all,

Having had a think about the question, I'm certain around the time the POW was described by Martin Evans I'm certain Dennis Monk wrote a couple of articles on the six wheeled tenders, it may be worth a trawl through the Model Engineers of around that time.

Regards,

Bob Youldon

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

Think that would be 1972 138 3433 and 1972 138 3434

Bob

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

thanks ! I get a look at e-bay for buying these 5 ME….but with 3 different postage , I can have a tremendous bill above £40 !!!! so , if anyone can send me the pages concerned by this tender , by internet or photocopy , I will be a big gift for me , and I am not ungrateful…

one month ago , I make the trip to Sandown Park , but don't see any POW !

my mail was : figureau2@wanadoo.fr

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

In my album, as above

[Herbert SturmParticipant @herbertsturm54961]

As I am building a similar Midland railway model from Derby works drawings it is possible for me to offer some information. The dimensions in 5 inch scale 1-11.3 in mm are fr the 6 wheel tender between inside frame is 114 mm and between outer frame 156 mm. For the loco it is 161 mm between outer frames. As I understand the POW frame drawings dimensions are wider so adjustments would have to be made. Happy to help you more regards Herb.

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

many thanks !

[Gary FletcherParticipant @garyfletcher32472]

 

Hi Ady1

I saw you have the Spinner Pages for the tender in your album, you dont by any chance have the loco plans do you? I'm Really struggling to find the correct volume numbers?

Herbet likewise are you able to share your Derby work drawings?

Thank you vety much

Gary

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

hi,

after all your help ( special thanks to Ady 1 and Herbert ) my tender become a reality!

I use the brass parts of model laser, it's a great saving of time , but a great hole in my bank saving !

many thanks jean-louis

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Glad we could help. Well done Jean-Louis

[Herbert SturmParticipant @herbertsturm54961]

Thanks for the thanks, it is only money. Hope to see the model at Sandown Park. Herb

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

happy new year…

some progress (with your help !) for the tender….2 photos of the pre-painted tank and the brake shoe before cutting.

now I work on the cab !

 

 

Edited By jean-louis figureau on 04/01/2016 19:27:22

[julian atkinsParticipant @julianatkins58923]

hi jean-louis,

excellent work on the tender!

on the modeleng.proboards forum we are currently discussing the valve gear for this loco, and there is much behind the scenes exchange of emails in the process. there are a number of errors with the valve gear as designed by martin evans, some obvious, some subtle. if you are interested and would care to PM me i will make sure you have the corrections to the valve gear in due course.

cheers,

julian

[jean-louis figureauParticipant @jean-louisfigureau95894]

last year I finish some details of my Washington , illustrated on the cover of ME no 4559…now , I come back at my POW and start the painting….I make a TRY with RAL 3003 (rubinrot ) , but the red is too flashy !

when I look all my photos on the subject I see clear red (loco 673) , dark red , even matt maroon , all very different…. I see sometimes "crimson lake " , but have you an RAL equivalent or where I can buy this color, preferably in two component fashion ?

thanks !

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