Posted by Nige on 23/07/2018 20:05:05:
Whereabouts are you in U.K. Patryk, if you are within travelling distance of Peterborough you are welcome to visit me and take a look at a Sieg 2.7 mill. Kettle is always on 😀👍
Thank you very much. I am more in the Milton Keynes area, but sometimes I have clients in East Anglia, so I will be sure to give you a ring.
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 23/07/2018 20:09:34:
Hi Patryk,
If you get a digital sub to MEW, you will be able to access our online archive as well which has lots of articles that will introduce you to milling, but mostly Jason Ballamy's series Milling for Beginners which has been in every other issue starting with MEW 261.
Sorry for such a blatant plug but I'm sure it would help you.
Neil
P.S. we are into arduinos and 3D printing too, we aren't totally weird…
I think I will do that, just need to wait couple more days, all the bank accounts have been obliterated!
Shame, I like weird people 
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 23/07/2018 20:11:42:
Posted by Patryk Socha on 23/07/2018 19:15:23:
Sieg seems to be coming up a lot online too… So which one of the say Warco machines is an equivalent of Sieg X2?
This would be an overkill for me but my life experience teaches me that I always regret going for smaller/cheaper kit as later I wish I had gone bigger…. So today I have found this: **LINK**
Spec seems to be quite good for that price, in USA this machine is sold as Precision Matthews…. Warco has similar ones, albeit a little bit more expensive…. Why pick one supplier over the other if machines are nearly identical?
Looks to be equivalent to an X3 mill.
Reasons for choosing a supplier are generally linked to spares availability and customer support. Machine tools are not like consumer goods, they typically take setting up and time to learn to use, suck in accessories and tooling, and the results will reflect you patience, skill and approach, not just the spec of the machine. Rather like getting a 3D printer set up and dialled, but with more variables!
A company selling their 'first milling machine' may not have as much experience with helping out new purchasers as a company that's been in the business 20+ years.
Plus, although lots of machines look the same, the detail specs can be very different, including 'hidden' elements like bearings, motor controllers and even levels of QC.
Naturally it costs a lot more to run a proper showroom and warehouse than run out of a container somewhere, but this also reflects the backup you'll get.
Neil
And this is it is all a bit confusing. There is no way for me to know what components and materials have been used, where the cuts have been made… At least Sieg seems to be people favourite here… That is probably a good indication…
Posted by Frances IoM on 23/07/2018 20:17:02:
whatever mill you go for you want some DRO on it so allow for that in your costings – you can probably get away without DRO on the lathe but on the mills they will transform operation
Yes, I feel it is a must. But the way I want to do it is to initially experience the machine as it is and learn to operate it on optical indicators. Then add DRO, as a project. Seems to be simple enough.
Posted by Jon on 23/07/2018 20:30:02:
Castings come from the same place and sent to a couple of producers to similar spec.
Personally i would beef the floor up if only in the area its going to sit.
Looks a good price on your first link ideal to learn on. Has many better features and a better layout.
However its flimsy like the rest, will do the jobs – eventually if times not a concern. Budget in R8 collets as well.
Other concern vice height, job height, cutters used all take up head height. More so when a drill chuck is fitted and ER collets.
Assume a shallow vice, base of vice job would sit would be 1 to 1 1/2" from bed straight away. Less so if sat it up higher to machine the sides out, could lose at this point 4" straight away.
Drill chuck will take 108mm, 10mm drill another 92mm fully sat in chuck theres another 8"
So far were up to 12" (305mm) check max travel from bed!
Only other problem can see is in your link, the length of the bed looks too long and thin off a small foot print. Will bow visually.
The more the head height is upwards will develop more runout and or flex/chatter.
A couple of good points here too, you are right, I am assuming that the table will be infinitely rigid! I have already made this mistake this month! Thank you. I am afraid that beefing up the floor is not an option any longer, so to quote great AvE "sometimes you've got to piss with the c… you've got!" 
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