Myford ml10 vertical milling slide

[Jeremy Smith 2Participant @jeremysmith2]

[Jeremy Smith 2Participant @jeremysmith2]

Myford makes two vertical milling slides for the ml10. A fixed unit, and a swivelling base unit. Are there any issues with flex/movement on the swiveling version?

 

Edited By Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 08:12:06

Edited By Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 08:12:56

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 08:03:35:

Myford makes two vertical milling slides for the ml10. A fixed unit, and a swivelling base unit. Are there any issues with flex/movement on the swiveling version?

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Yes … widely documented

No personal experience though, as I only have the fixed version.

MichaelG.

[Clive Brown 1Participant @clivebrown1]

I owned a swivelling Myford slide, used with my Grayson, and then with my Boxford for a while. Not used a fixed version, which I'd expect to be slightly more rigid, but the swivelling version is perfectly useable. Obviously they are both limited to light cuts and fairly small cutters. The clamping bolts of the swivelling version need to be well tightened since there is quite a lot of "overhang " from them. TBH, I didn't need to use the swivel facility very often, but it can be useful.

Edited By Clive Brown 1 on 19/04/2020 08:41:48

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Get the fixed model.

I have both for the ML7 as i found the swivel model too flexy in general use. A real pain. Have just been using the fixed model recently and it is a vast improvement over the swivel model. Deeper cuts. No chatter. No unwanted movement. Very nice.

You only need the swivel model about once in every two lifetimes to cut special helical gears. Cheaper these days to buy the gears if needed.

Edited By Hopper on 19/04/2020 08:50:03

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I have a Rodney and the compound milling slide and while both have done the job a milling machine does trump both. I was pleased that a Rodney was included with my Myford but after using it a mill rose rapidly up my wish list. The answer to your post must be the plain slide but if possible I would get a mill onto the wish list.

Mike

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

I use the swivel type on my Warco WM250V. I think the much broader crossslide makes it very much more rigid than it was on the Myford Speed 10 I use to have. I use the horizontal swivel probably half-a-dozen times a year, the vertical swivel very occasionally. But sometimes I need it, for example when drilling long angled steam passages from cylinder end to valve port.

I've got a plain vertical but I've never used it. The double-swivel does everything I've needed and my plans to buy a mill keep getting put back because of it. All the milled and flycut surfaces you see in the pics in my album were done on it, except for some railway work done on a Bridgeport clone.

Edited By Mick B1 on 19/04/2020 12:41:50

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

I have both types on my Super 7. My swiveling slide is the newer style with double bolts on both axes and I have had no issues with unwanted movement. I assume that the ML10 model is the same as the 7. If so then the swiveling slide is definitely more versatile with no loss of functionality in my experience.

Stay well,

Rod

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

I Have a swivel vertical slide. Never had any issues with it but it does get used mostly as a spindle mount for clockwheel cutting or drilling tiny holes on a PCD. I have a VMC mill so it's not been used for milling for some years now. As with many of these arrangements you have to make allowances for them. A big Cincinnatti it most certainly aint.

regards Martin

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Like others i have both which I use on my S7 I prefer to use the none swiveling slide only using the swiveling slide when I have to, as other have pointed out when using them you need to take smaller cuts, be patience with both setup and machining.

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[Jeremy Smith 2Participant @jeremysmith2]

Are there any “better” options out there for a vertical milling slide, instead of the one direct from myford, for the ml10?

 

 

 

Edited By Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 18:32:48

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Posted by Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 18:27:10:

Are there any “better” options out there for a vertical milling slide, instead of the one direct from myford, for the ml10?

Edited By Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 18:32:48

My 'other' vertical slide is the fixed 'own brand' version from Warco, and I don't think it's anywhere near as good as the Myford double-swivel – though I think the WM250V lathe is very good. Providing you keep your demands moderate, I can't really think a better one than the 2-bolts double-swivel is practical or possible.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 18:27:10:

Are there any “better” options out there for a vertical milling slide, instead of the one direct from myford, for the ml10?

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I got some stick last time I mentioned it [*]… but the Schaublin design is probably definitive in terms of monolithic solidity: **LINK**

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=119091

I feel sure it’s too big for the ML10 but it is a model of excellence in design.

MichaelG.

[*] Please do read the posts in that thread.

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Edit: Here’s a better link to images of that slide [near the bottom of the page]

https://www.historictimekeepers.com/Equipment%20for%20sale.htm

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 19/04/2020 20:22:59

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 18:27:10:

Are there any “better” options out there for a vertical milling slide, instead of the one direct from myford, for the ml10?

Edited By Jeremy Smith 2 on 19/04/2020 18:32:48

Other yes, but not necessarily better or as good a value for money. (Cost of the Schaublin = ??)

I've only seen one of the eBay copies of the Myford-type vertical slide, made in India, and the quality was laughably bad. Absolutely ludicrous. Don't even go there. Buy a secondhand genuine Myford. Both the ML7 ones I bought off eBay UK were in as-new condition in their original Myford boxes and from memory were priced about 70 quid each if you watch for long enough.

You can actually pivot the fixed steady in the horizontal plane by using only one holding-down T bolt and turning the slide body to the desired angle. Then use a milling-machine-style clamp and bolt to clamp the base to the cross slide at a second point for security.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Agreed, Hopper … The Myford [Beeston] fixed vertical slide provides an excellent balance of price/performance.

I can’t comment on the current production models, because I have never seen one.

MichaelG.

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