How on earth do they calculate electricity and gas bills…

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Lithium Batteries are worth a look. Too expensive today unless you're a Lottery Winner, but expect prices to drop in future.

Dave

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

You are not looking at the right market. The P100D Tesla battery doesn’t cost £100,000. They use different chemistry for different applications. Not sure what a 7kWh Tesla powerwall costs at present, but remember that includes all the charging, discharging – and interaction with the grid – connections, too.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by not done it yet on 26/12/2017 10:02:09:

… Not sure what a 7kWh Tesla powerwall costs at present

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See my link 28-Aug-2017 on this previous thread: **LINK**

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=128488&p=9

MichaelG.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Vic on 23/12/2017 14:38:57:

Smart meters help customers “manage their consumption”, really? So you think you’ll put they kettle on and make a nice cuppa then glance the smart meter and decide nope, I’ve used enough electricity today I’ll go without the tea. Or you’re happily watching a film on TV then halfway through decide, that’s enough, I’ll turn it off now. Really, is that how folks with smart meters live? I just turn stuff off when I’m not using it.

That's exactly how I do business Vic. Unfortunately my daughter (despite endless nagging) is guilty of the following sins:

• Boils 2 litres of water to make a mug of tea
• Never turns lights or electric heaters off
• Goes out leaving TV, Sound system(s), computers, game consoles, electric blanket etc. switched on
• Uses several kilowatts per day drying and curling her hair…

There's a faint possibility modern youth might take notice of a Smart Meter rather than a greybeard rabbiting on.

Daughter's behaviour isn't inherited. Whilst I'm a mere Scrooge-level meanie, my mum is an ultra-saver; she turns everything off and unplugs it before going to bed. It causes a certain amount of pensioner bafflement, for example her kitchen TV does a full "I'm brand-new channel search" on power up if it's not been used for a few days. Saves money though!

Dave

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 26/12/2017 10:54:27

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Daughter's behaviour isn't inherited. Whilst I'm a mere Scrooge-level meanie, my mum is an ultra-saver;

It’s likely your mum had to – war years instilled a saving culture – and it was passed on, to you, in your younger years. Daughter has grown up in a less ‘make do and mend’ era.

Until they are really hard up for spare cash, there is little to change their ways, and modern goods don’t easily lend themselves towards repair, do they! So a ‘throw away’ generation has resulted. It is surprising how going hungry can concentrate the mind.

 

Edited By not done it yet on 26/12/2017 11:44:41

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