How many threads please?

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

How many threads please

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Thread sealant would be better than lock

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Ideally you should aim for at least 1 D engagement, 1.5 D or 2 D would be even better.

These are usual parameters for threaded components subjected to axial loads.

In this case, going into 3 mm thick tube,,from the side, you don not seem to have much option and so must live with just less than 5/8 D. (0.118 / 0.1875) If the threads are axial, then aim for at 1 D engagement minimum.

Since it is a lubricator, in situ, it is unlikely to suffer much stress so it will probably suffice.

Don't overstress things by overtightening the locknut!.

If possible, I would try to avoid making the threads a loose fit.. In any case, a slack fit will allow leakage.

A sealant should be used, since you don't want steam or oil escaping

Howard, .

[John RuddParticipant @johnrudd16576]

sealant needs to be able to withstand steam temperature…..

Edited By John Rudd on 10/02/2019 20:08:59

[Paul KempParticipant @paulkemp46892]

I am assuming you are screwing a male fitting on the lubricator into the side of a 3mm thick pipe? That beingnthencase you would be better off silver soldering a boss with a female thread onto the pipe.

Paul.

[Tim Taylor 2Participant @timtaylor2]

Posted by John Rudd on 10/02/2019 20:08:11:

sealant needs to be able to withstand steam temperature…..

Edited By John Rudd on 10/02/2019 20:08:59

This is an excellent point. I would suggest using one of the thread sealing compounds designed for steam use – they come in a paste compound that typically includes nickel and copper, and are non-hardening, making later removal easier.

Tim

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

A couple of practical points, as I see it.

One cannot just hang a lubricator on a pipe – better for the lubricator to be suppported and a vibration proof/flexible pipe arrangement to connect the two.

Screwing in anything to a curved surface requires either a tapered thread or a boss (as per PK,) and sealing the connection with a washer (if a parallel thread). A curved surface would only support a locknut at two points.

[vintage engineerParticipant @vintageengineer]

The ideal is 1 1/2 times diameter

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

But do you ever see these lengths of thread on plumbing?

Typical model nut and nipple probably less than 0.5D. Domestic compression fitting maybe only 0.25D and they are good for 7bar at 120degC at 15 & 22mm

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

All these rules for depth of thread are aimed at developing full strength, but you don't need anything like full strength on this application. Assuming 80 psi steam, you have 2.2 lbs force. The pitch diameter of the thread is near enough 11/64" and the thread length is 1/8" (again near enough), so the area of thread in shear is 11/64 * pi * 1/8 * 1/2 = 0.034 sq.in, so the shear stress is 65 psi, which is not a lot. Go for it, use sealant and don't over-tighten

just for interest, a 1/4" bsw nut is only 0.2" thick, 0.8D, your 3mm is 0.63D

Edited By duncan webster on 12/02/2019 23:50:39

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