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    paul rayner
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      Hi guys

      does anybody know of any online resorces regarding governors

      especially "lumbs governors (made at persiverance works in elland)"

      ive had a trawl through but there seems to be very little online

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      paul rayner
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        MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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          #120982
          Muzzer
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            Sorry Paul, not me, but I used to live in Elland, just outside Halifax, so this is interesting. Fascinating industrial heritage in those mill towns. Many of the old mill buildings remain down near the river, disused and derelict.

            I see Lumb and sons were described as "Governance Experts". Perhaps they could have got a job in the city?!! They also seem to have developed motion recording equipment.

            http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/James_Lumb_and_Sons

            Muzzer

            #120985
            Phil P
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              I too would appreciate a heads up on this one.

              I am making a model of a Pollit & Wigzell mill engine called Agnes, this engine was originally fitted with a Whitehead governor, but later in its working days it was changed to a Lumb governor and regulator.

              I have full size original drawings for the Whitehead but not the Lumb, I do have lots of photo's though.

              Phil

              #120987
              MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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                Apart from my links above there is a great deal of information on governors in pre 1970's books on theory of machines .

                Governors are easy to analyse once the penny drops and most older engineers will have happy memories of those hardy perennial exam questions .

                MikeW

                #120988
                paul rayner
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                  thanks guys but ive allready seen those sites as you can see theres very little infomation

                  phil its not the engine at markham grange by any chance?

                  ive just visited there today! and same as you taken a few pics well worth visiting.

                  if you are intrested they have a nice example at the nmes

                  paul

                  #120992
                  Phil P
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                    @philp

                    Paul

                    Yes it is the one at Markham, and I have taken loads of photo's of it myself.

                    The award winning model at Bolton is one of two made by Peter Southworth and is identical to mine, in fact it uses the same patterns that were made by Peter, my late father bought Peters third set of spare castings and started to build the engine in the 1980's then sold it part completed when he became too ill to carry on with it.

                    Last year I traced it and bought it back in exactly the same state as he had sold it thirteen years previously, and am now working towards finishing it myself.

                    Peter Southworth never wanted the castings for this engine to be freely available, and gave the patterns to a friend to "BURN", thankfully he could not bring himself to burn them and unbeknown to anyone put them in his loft. Its a long story but they are now safely stored in my loft and will be displayed with my engine when it is finished.

                    Before anyone asks……I am respecting Peters wishes and not making them available for sets of castings.

                    I have also been very fortunate in being able to borrow Peters collection of black and white negatives, and am at this very moment scanning all the Pollit & Wigzell photo's that he took at various sites in the 1980's including Agnes at its original location in Washpit Mill.

                    Phil

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