Emma Victoria

[HobbyNutParticipant @hobbynut]

I did what Henry said, and it works well. I am now into making the cylinders, just WJ cut the parts today from 3/8" x 3" Brass flatbar. I will take a pic of the parts and post it later.

[HobbyNutParticipant @hobbynut]

Here are the pieces all ready to D&T etc. I am lazy, so I WJ cut the holes in the valve block and cover.

[HobbyNutParticipant @hobbynut]

Another question to those in the know.

The valve shaft is detailed with a .010" flat x 5/8" long on 1 end, with a thread on the opposite end.

Why is there a flat on that end? Should the flat be where the "nut" is fitted? There appears to be a few missing dims. on the "nut" also.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

As the end of the shaft is supported in a blind hole there is a risk of condensate building up in the hole and hydralic locking the valve, the flat lets anything out.

Yes there are a few bits missing from the valve nut, shame really as the half page of drawings has been printed twice you would have thought one of the drawings may have the info Maybe third time lucky when the text catches up with the drawings

 

I would assume its made from 3/8" square stock, the large hole is for the 5/32" rod and the threaded hole 5 or 6BA for a grub screw

 

J

Edited By JasonB on 26/03/2013 16:15:17

Edited By JasonB on 26/03/2013 16:17:24

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Actually I've just read the text and that gives all the info I just said above so we were third time lucky.

Big question is why two different slide valves?

[AcrosticusParticipant @acrosticus]

Posted by JasonB on 26/03/2013 16:23:40:

Actually I've just read the text and that gives all the info I just said above so we were third time lucky.

Big question is why two different slide valves?

Presumably because the cylinder and valve chest of the fabricated cylinder and the Railmotor castings, though both the same bore, are different external sizes, and have different valve rod positions.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Ah yes now I've had a better look it seems one set of drawings is for all the valve parts & cylinder covers for the fabricated cylinders and the other for cast, although several parts are the same on both drawings there are some subtle differences, would have been handy to have a title saying which is which.

Thats what you get for not reading the article from the start.

J

[James SuttonParticipant @jamessutton25895]

I have just started construction of my own Emma Victoria, Canadian version. I'm converting to American threads as I go. Good to see that there are others ahead of me in case I have issues. This will be a new project for me as I have never built a locomotive.

I am making the wheels from solid stock and was curious how to mill in the counter weight. Seeing that you've welded in yours I may try riveting a set on. That should be much easier then milling them manually.

James

[HobbyNutParticipant @hobbynut]

I am sure that rivets will do nicely. I am just a TIGaholic! I dislike all the drilling and rivetting setup!

Must be a throwback to my boilermaking days!! I just machined the wheels as per the dtails, and cut the c/weights from 1/8" MS and 1/16MS and welded them in.

Where are you in Canada?

[James SuttonParticipant @jamessutton25895]

I am presently in Halifax, Nova Scotia but will be relocating to Kingston, Ontario in the summer. I'm a marine engineer in the RCN.

[john kennedy 1Participant @johnkennedy1]

Iv'e used 6ba countersunk screws to attach the weights.Will probably put some filler over them.

[HobbyNutParticipant @hobbynut]

I caught up with the series last night, so I started another side project.

I see a new mag is up today, so I will be into the drains I guess. I have an EMMA thread under "projects under construction".

[James SuttonParticipant @jamessutton25895]

I have completed my frame with only one small problem. I broke 2 of my 3 taps #6-32. The old dull tap with the flutes now twisted into a slight spiral survived but the two new sharp ones both snaped while tapping the cross stays.

I am RCN and presently visiting London. Is there a place in London that I can get to easily from the Tube to buy spare taps? Not from here so don't know my way around.

If I break my last tap my progress while I am sailing will be hindered. I'm a marine engineer and naval machinist and have access to machinery while at sea. Ship is open to tours daily while we are here for those interested.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

You may have a job finding the smaller UNC sizes, I've looked at a couple of likely places within reach (cromwell & Millhill)but they don't go down to #6.

How long are you docked for, someone like J&L/MSC would deliver next day, assuming they will deliver to the boat/dock.

[Keith LongParticipant @keithlong89920]

Hi James

Try the Tap and Die Company **LINK**

445 West Green Road, London, N15 3PL, phone number : 020 8888 1865.

Never done business with them but I believe that they have a good reputation. They have the size you're after listed, with a choice of, taper, 2nd and plug all at £4.50 each.

I don't know London either but it's a fair bet that they will be within striking distance of a tube station.

Keith

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Keith and James- FYI Google maps shows a tube station "Turnpike Lane" on the Picadilly line about 1/2 km from 445 West Green Road. Looks like some great Caribbean take out shops in the area, on Street View. Might be wise to go at lunch time!

JD

[James SuttonParticipant @jamessutton25895]

Thanks for the help. I'll give the Tap and Die Company a try when I'm out sightseeing. Hopefully be able to get what I need. I'll call them in the morning before I head out.

[joegibParticipant @joegib]

Hi James,

As Jeff suggests the Tap & Die Co is within walking distance of Turnpike Lane Tube Station (Piccadilly Line) — see map:

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I assume you're at West India Dock, Canary Wharf (HMCS Iroquois mooring?) so Tube routes will be:

1. From Canary Wharf Underground station take Jubilee Line train North/West bound to London Bridge.

2. At London Bridge change to Northern Line and take northbound train to Kings Cross.

3. At Kings Cross change to Piccadilly Line and take northbound train to Turnpike Lane.

Alternatively (fewer changes):

1. From Canary Wharf Underground station take Jubilee Line train North/West bound to Green Park.

2. At Green Park change to Piccadilly Line and take North/East bound train direct to Turnpike Lane.

As you exit from Turnpike Lane station head South along Green Lanes (area's mostly built up but green area containing playground will lie to your right). You'll shortly come to a 'Y' junction where road branches off Green Lanes at 45 degrees to your left — that's West Green Road. A few hundred yards along the road (right hand side) you'll find the Tap & Die Co shop. It's quite a modest looking shop frontage — I think the whole building represents their 'warehouse'. Their site says 'visitors by appointment only' but if you ring them beforehand they'll probably be happy to see you in the circs.

Joe

Edited By joegib on 29/04/2013 06:05:47

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Mornington Crescent!

Neil

[James SuttonParticipant @jamessutton25895]

Added a picture of my progress on Emma Victoria to my album. Image was taken with my iPad and shows up correct on it but for some reason it is upside down once uploaded. I'll fix that once I figure out how.

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Neil, what did you mean with your reference to a "Mornington Crescent"?

James, the pic looks good. You must have been in the antigravity bay of the ship for that one!

JD

[GaryMParticipant @garym]

Posted by Jeff Dayman on 30/04/2013 15:27:36:

Neil, what did you mean with your reference to a "Mornington Crescent"?

James, the pic looks good. You must have been in the antigravity bay of the ship for that one!

JD

Jeff, he means he listens to BBC Radio 4. It is a game on a popular radio show.

Gary

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Hi Jeff,

Visit here for advice, and all will become clear!

Neil

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

I wonder if James ever got his taps on West Green Rd?

Hopefully he's tapping away on E V parts in the shipboard machine shop.

JD

[James SuttonParticipant @jamessutton25895]

I was able to locate what I needed to keep going. In Liverpool now and still working towards a rolling chassis before I return home to Canada.

Edited By James Sutton on 24/05/2013 17:11:55

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