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  • #526366
    Former Member
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      @formermember12892

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        #526814
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          #526835
          pgk pgk
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            @pgkpgk17461

            The devil is in the detail. What test method and it's sensitivity and specificity are crucial. Are you carrying Covid 19 or a different coronavirus? If Covid 19 was it isolated and typed to it's variant and was it taken as a test before or after your vaccine dose (and what vaccine type). And finally are they planning to retest to see if you're a persistant carrier or not…
            (It's even theoretically possible to carry a modified live vaccine virus and vaccinate others..)

            I finally got my jab a few days ago – total chaos at the vax centre and took a 3.5 hr round trip in all to get the 20miles there and back)

            pgk

            #526839
            Circlip
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              @circlip

              Had my first one on 3/2/21. Local health centre rang me a couple of days before and appointment was 3.20 pm. Arrived at 3.15 and had to wait a couple of minutes before being sent to one of the consulting rooms. Was asked a series of questions pertaining to allergies and had I been a "Test Monkey?" Quick jab and handed a sheet of info and the "First jab" card. Asked if i could sit i the car for 15mins instead of the plague pit (waiting room) which they OK'd and sat back in car at 3.30. Felt OK and went home. Following day felt as though I'd been beaten up but day after that, fine.

              Regards Ian.

              Astro Zenica

               

              Edited By Circlip on 13/02/2021 11:32:42

              Edited By Circlip on 13/02/2021 11:33:40

              #526843
              Frances IoM
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                @francesiom58905

                the New Zealand quarantine at the border shows that 28 out of 162 positive tests since Jan 1st this year were deemed historic and non-infectious – ie their test is v sensitive and nearly 1 in 5 positive tests were actually of old infections – this ratio seems from their statistics to be increasing as returning kiwis are more likely to have had covid in the previous year

                #526846
                Clive Hartland
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                  @clivehartland94829

                  Had my first jab on the 15th Jan. all ok but the day after had an allergic reaction, headache, hives on forearms and my back (Itchy) Painful joints and muscles. has eased off now but hives and itch still with me. Night time sweat as well.

                  No indication when 2nd jab will come.

                  #526880
                  pgk pgk
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                    @pgkpgk17461

                    Quite high percentage adverse reactions to this stuff (must be the nanobots and tracking chips?). Personally I experienced bizarre coldness in hands and feet for a few hours after being dosed which I treated with copious gin and tonic to dilate my vessels followed by nodding off in a heated bedroom. Headache took 36hrs to almost clear

                    Data sheet on the Pfizer vaccine… note the percentage of side-effects farther down the sheet
                    Link

                    Modern Vaccine data sheet
                    Link

                    Astro-Zeneca (Oxford vax) data sheet
                    Link

                    pgk

                    #526887
                    Bazyle
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                      @bazyle

                      On the EDMES club night zoom call last night most had been jabbed or about to be. One had contracted C19 mildly when in hospital for something else. Couple of youngsters not yet done. No refusnicks. Mostly no side effects.
                      I got done last Saturday after phonecall from surgery 10 minutes walk away and today got the letter from NHS. wink

                      No effet for 24hrs, then very mild flu feelings, mild headache for 3 days bit like my allergy to paint fumes.

                      With Melbourne going back in lock down after cases detected I wonder what their planned reaction will be later on (6-9 months) when most people have been vaccinated.

                      #526888
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                        @formermember12892

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                        #526891
                        Dave Daniels
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                          @davedaniels93256

                          Had mine last Saturday, 12:20 PM. Woke up at about 03:30, shoulder in agony.

                          Roundly cursed Astra Zeneca until I realised it was the left shoulder and I had the jab in the right.

                          Other than that it seemed to have no effect whatsoever.

                          Why do they ask ' What ethnicity do you consider yourself to be' ? Didn't realise we had a choice.

                          Tried 'Little Sweetie' but that didn't work so settled for White British.

                          Have the flu jab every year and they never seem to have any effect, adverse or otherwise.

                          Seem to remember having TABT, Yellow Fever and another ( Polio ? ) one afternoon in July '62 RAF Bridgnorth but felt nowt although some keeled over .. ??

                          D.

                          #526901
                          pgk pgk
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                            @pgkpgk17461
                            Posted by br on 13/02/2021 13:46:09:

                            This site can’t be reached

                            Getting this on all the links from pgk posting ?

                            Bill

                            Edited By br on 13/02/2021 13:47:35

                            Sorry about that – reason is that it's a set of PDFs and they get downloaded and opened in Firefox and a local name I didnlt pick up on

                            These should work..

                            AstraZeneca Link

                            Pfizer Link

                            Moderna Link

                            pgk

                            #526903
                            Journeyman
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                              @journeyman
                              Posted by br on 13/02/2021 13:46:09:

                              This site can’t be reached

                              Getting this on all the links from pgk posting ?

                              Bill

                              Edited By br on 13/02/2021 13:47:35

                              That's because he posted a local link to his home machine.

                              The online links are:

                              AstraZenica PDF version

                              Pfizer BioNtech PDF

                              There is also an older post in similar vein.

                              John

                              Edited By Journeyman on 13/02/2021 14:51:53

                              #526905
                              Former Member
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                                @formermember12892

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                                #526906
                                Oldiron
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                                  @oldiron

                                  Had my jab Thursday at local doctors surgery. Had to stand outside in a queue for 15 minutes before I got in though. Not told to wait for 15 mins afterwards so all good. Now waiting for 2nd jab appointment.

                                  regards

                                  #526910
                                  roy entwistle
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                                    @royentwistle24699

                                    Had my first jab 22 Jan 1.30 pm got home about 2.00pm had a cup of tea and fell asleep till 6.00pm, went to bed about 10 00pm and slept till about 11.30 am following morning. Been OK ever since, next jab April 11 Astro Zeneca

                                    All very well organised

                                    Roy

                                    #526923
                                    Grindstone Cowboy
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                                      @grindstonecowboy

                                      Wife and I had Astra Zeneca jabs around 5pm on Wednesday – during the night the wife got uncontrollable shivers and all the symptoms of flu, stayed in bed throughout Thursday. I fared a bit better, but felt tired and just sat and watched TV. Paracetamols helped. By about 9pm Thursday we both felt a lot better and were back to normal when we woke up on Friday.

                                      Interestingly, one of the volunteers at the centre (we are near Blackpool) told us that people from as far afield as Manchester had been booking to have their jabs here and bringing a picnic lunch to eat in their cars whilst parked on the prom.

                                      Rob

                                      #526933
                                      Dave Halford
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                                        @davehalford22513
                                        Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 13/02/2021 16:28:58:

                                        Interestingly, one of the volunteers at the centre (we are near Blackpool) told us that people from as far afield as Manchester had been booking to have their jabs here and bringing a picnic lunch to eat in their cars whilst parked on the prom.

                                        Rob

                                        I bet you wouldn't get away with that in Wales.

                                        #526947
                                        pgk pgk
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                                          @pgkpgk17461
                                          Posted by Dave Halford on 13/02/2021 16:46:53:

                                          I bet you wouldn't get away with that in Wales.

                                          I'll be taking dinner with me next time (in Wales). I arrived 10 mins early and was told to wait in car to be fetched… 15 mins after appt time i went looking and got told I was late! 30 mins queued standing to get to a room with chairs .. and another 30 mins before called for the jab. 12 booths .. not sure how many actually staffed but each taking ages per person. I was in an out for my jab in seconds – marched in with sleeve up and said 'stick it in'

                                          If I'd had my way they'd have been stood by their cars with sleeves rolled and 2 clerks plus a nurse loading syringes I'd get through 30-40/hr solo without all the spare bodies they had running control. Tick-box Wales.

                                          Interesting side effect for me was hands and feet became very very cold while rest of me was warm – Gin sorted that. Oh, and the regulation headache.

                                          It;s suprising that all three vaccines have such high side effect incidences and more suprsing that the EUA sheets don't mention any preservatives or adjuvants (I bet there are) or type of tissue used for culture.

                                          pgk

                                          pgk

                                          #526948
                                          pgk pgk
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                                            @pgkpgk17461

                                            double post

                                            Edited By pgk pgk on 13/02/2021 17:06:31

                                            #526949
                                            Journeyman
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                                              @journeyman
                                              Posted by pgk pgk on 13/02/2021 17:03:58

                                              … It;s suprising that all three vaccines have such high side effect incidences and more suprsing that the EUA sheets don't mention any preservatives or adjuvants (I bet there are) or type of tissue used for culture.

                                              pgk

                                              Well I thought the "contents" for the Oxford one were pretty well covered:

                                              What COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca contains, One dose (0.5 ml) contains:
                                              COVID-19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S* recombinant) 5 × 1010 viral particles *Recombinant, replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus vector encoding the SARS-CoV-2 Spike glycoprotein. Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney (HEK) 293 cells.
                                              This product contains genetically modified organisms (GMOs).
                                              The other excipients are L-histidine, L-histidine hydrochloride monohydrate, magnesium chloride hexahydrate, polysorbate 80, ethanol, sucrose, sodium chloride, disodium edetate dihydrate, water for injections.

                                              John

                                              #526953
                                              Peter G. Shaw
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                                                @peterg-shaw75338

                                                Had my Astra-Zenica jab Thursday 21.Jan. Do not recall any side-effects. And I'm on a chemotherapy drug. And drugs following a mild heart attack. But then I've had most of the 'flu jabs over the last 10 years (I think it is) with no side effects at all.

                                                (I say most of the 'flu jabs because one was missed due, I suspect, to a letter being sent to the wrong Peter Shaw.)

                                                Peter G. Shaw

                                                #526966
                                                HOWARDT
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                                                  @howardt

                                                  Had my Astra-Zeneca jab Wednesday. Arrived at first check in person on time and handed through five people directing and separating to get the jab. Back in the car fifteen minutes in total. Thursday woke with slight headache which lasted all day, went to bed at 10:00 and sweated through the early morning. All well on Friday. Wife, 68 had hers today.

                                                  #526975
                                                  Bill Davies 2
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                                                    @billdavies2

                                                    My wide and I have had our jabs, yesterday (Friday) mid afternoon. We both have a slight headache today, not much, a small 'naggy' one, if that means anything to you. I also have a slight backache – but I'm prone to get those, so probably unrelated. No other issues so far. We've both been taking 200UI (50ug) of vitamin D, from March last year, 'just in case.' We don't get out in the sunlight enough, especially in recent weather!

                                                    Bill

                                                    #526985
                                                    not done it yet
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                                                      @notdoneityet

                                                      We had our Oxford jabs on Tuesday at about 09:15. Other half eventually had pains in her arm for a while, but I was knocked for six. After spending about an hour in the workshop (usual before fingers get cold) in the afternoon, I got the shivers and then went to sleep (nothing unusual in that🙂 ). Afterwards, I felt awful with no balance (as soon as I looked down, I was falling forwards).

                                                      I (unusually) left the heating on overnight at an elevated temperature, but was still ‘hazy’ on Wednesday. Completely back to normal by Thursday, so the side effects were worth it for the ‘light at the end of the tunnel’. Arm ache on raising my arm continued to Friday but all gone now.

                                                      This from someone who has had virtually no ‘flu’ jab reaction over the last 24/25 years.

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