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    Rod Ashton
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      @rodashton53132

      Could not say why!!! Except inspired by some exhibits at Sandown on Friday. I would now like to build a wooden model of a Pensilvanian style Conestoga Ox/mule wagon. Any experianced rapport cordially recieved.

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      Rod Ashton
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        @rodashton53132

        Wooden Conestoga Model

        #102706
        Terryd
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          @terryd72465

          Hi,

          A google search found this.

          This society may be a better place to ask your question, It was probably on their stand that you saw the model.

          Regards

          Terry

          Edited By Terryd on 04/11/2012 06:40:39

          #102717
          Niloch
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            @niloch

            They have a full size example here:

            **LINK**

            for you to measure, photograph etc. but I was dismayed to find it in the open exposed to British weather. I have no idea whether it is the Pennsylvanian variant or no.

            #106665
            Graham Green 3
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              @grahamgreen3

              This site is just for Horse Drawn Vehicles, there is a forum as well.

              There are some very knowlegeable persons available to answer just about any questions you might have about this form of modelling.

              Oh, it's for scratchbuilt models only, sorry, no kits allowed.

              http://www.scalemodelhorsedrawnvehicle.co.uk/

              regards greenie

              #106693
              Jeff Dayman
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                @jeffdayman43397

                Hi Rod,

                There is a Pennsylvania Conestoga wagon preserved at the Waterloo Regional museum in Kitchener Ontario Canada. Link is below.

                http://waterlooregionmuseum.com/collection.aspx

                It is most certainly an authentic Pennsylvania style wagon, as the original owner Mr Weber was a Swiss Mennonite from Pennsylvania who re-settled in the Waterloo region along with a group of fellow Mennonites in the late 1700's. They were known as the "German Company" and their land the "German Tract". Descendents of the original settling families are still abundant locally and one of the main streets is named Weber st after Mr Weber. (The We in Weber is pronounced like Bee locally, not Web as in spiderweb)

                Hope the info is of some use.

                JD

                #106699
                Rod Ashton
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                  @rodashton53132

                  Jeff

                  Thank you for the info.

                  Regards

                  Rod

                  #106700
                  Rod Ashton
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                    @rodashton53132

                    Graham

                    I joined the Guild. Very informative and helpful.

                    Regards

                    Rod

                    #106792
                    Geoff Sheppard
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                      @geoffsheppard46476

                      Rod

                      By coincidence, the speaker at last evening's local model engineering society meeting was Mike Horler, the wheelwright who restored the Conestoga wagon which is now at the American Museum at Claverton. As you may imagine, he is none too pleased that it is now kept in the open.

                      He mentioned an excellent model built to the drawings produced by the late John Thompson. Now that you have joined the Guild of Model Wheelwrights, you have probably been pointed to a source of these drawings. The Guild web site illustrates a nice example built by John Castle. This may have been the one you saw.

                      We look forward to seeing your version at exhibition.

                      Regards

                      Geoff

                      #106797
                      Ian S C
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                        @iansc

                        Geoff, it sounds as though you have the same sort of idiots running museums over there as we have here, they think they are saving money by not giving exhibits at least some sort of cover. I think our major museums have come to their senses in recent years, after some expensive mistakes. Ian S C

                        #106798
                        Geoff Sheppard
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                          @geoffsheppard46476

                          Ian

                          Being much involved with our local Industrial Archaeological Society, I sometimes get the opportunity to express an opinion – not popular on occasions. One of the worst offenders is, perhaps, the biggest of them all (no names, no pack drill). Elegant ladies with double-barrelled names seem to spend all their time and lots of money changing the shape of the organisation, then re-organise themselves and start all over again. Hence, no money for the important things and a lot of frustrated volunteers.

                          Yours (slightly incandescent)

                          Geoff

                          #106799
                          Rod Ashton
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                            @rodashton53132

                            Geof

                            Guild have kindly supplied the John Thompson plans.

                            Also received the Ivan Collns "Concorde" plans from the Oregan H/S.

                            Actually in a dilema as to which one to complete first. Have taken the time to draw some bits in 3D to make sure I understand everything and to allow dimension interrogation where required for whittling. Probably a strange approach but comfort zone stuff from my metalcraft and helps to ensure that the bits fit correctly after "scaling" from the print.

                            It may be a minute or two before I am ready for the exhibition table, but have most of the raw material now to begin and have already cut the Conestoga rims from solid steam pipe.

                            Thanks for the support.

                            Regards

                            Rod

                            #106801
                            Geoff Sheppard
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                              @geoffsheppard46476

                              Rod

                              Steam pipe? It sounds as though it's going to be a formidable model!

                              Regards

                              Geoff

                              #106821
                              Graham Green 3
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                                @grahamgreen3

                                Rod, the drawings from Ivan Collins, may not be of a Concord coach at all, but another makers coach.

                                Please visit this site, as this subject is still under discussion.

                                There is a lot of information to be had from with-in this group, please join and you eyes will be opened to all the intricacies, of building one of these models.

                                http://forum.scalemodelhorsedrawnvehicle.co.uk/

                                regards Graham

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