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  • #106555
    John Stevenson 1
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      @johnstevenson1
      Posted by jason udall on 17/12/2012 01:10:03:

      BTW
      "Jason Udall, you remember my tussle with a 1000+ poster on another thread, don`t become one of them." ???

      Alan just what was I at risk of doing? ( asside from grammer or spelling )

      But then I never was a particully social animal prefering Engineering.

      Edited By jason udall on 17/12/2012 01:14:59

      Jason, you have to have less than a 1000 posts or more than 70 pictures or you don't fit in cheeky

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      #106557
      jason udall
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        @jasonudall57142

        John..I guessed that. but wished Alan to answer since only he would know for certain. Since I appear to have offended him in someway.

        I do seem to detect an undercurrent.( like I said ..not big on social skills) and wish to understand futher.

        In my post earlier I broadly agreed with the Original Post , maybe even agreement is unacceptable..I realy don't know

        Regards

        Jason

        #106560
        david kitchen 1
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          @davidkitchen1

          Haven't you lot got any work (pleasure) to do ?

          RDG Seems to be doing well, must be doing something right. I like 'em.

          Some of the best british machines come from Yorkshire.

          Myfords are too small for much more than clocks.

          The worst thing about my chinese lathe, apart from me, is the totally useless handbook.

          DK

          #106561
          Lambton
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            @lambton

            Quote from john Stevenson.

            "The reason I tell you to do this is that I went into Myfords before the sale was made public and bought shed loads of tooling which covered all the gear cutting tooling, all the taps for the leadscrew nuts plus a lot of other pieces, including the reamers for the gear blanks."

            John, a serious and sincere question; now you apparently have the wherewithal to make Myford gears will you be offering high standard British made items for sale?

            Best regards

            Lambton

            #106562
            David Clark 13
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              @davidclark13

              "When I did my apprenticeship although I enjoyed the shop floor I could see that it is basically a dead end job especially now with those machining centres. Do you do your own programming?"

              Hi there

              A £1,000 a week dead end job (on nights) and no programming required other than loading into the machine and calling sub programs.

              If it was not for editing Model Engineers' Workshop, I would still be doing a dead end job and enjoying it.

              regards David

              #106563
              David Clark 13
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                @davidclark13

                "Maybe it's time for the moderator to intervene and at least remove the word to which I refer…
                I remember that not long ago, in a similar situation, the moderator took some action."

                Hi Dias

                What word in what post?

                regards David

                #106565
                John Stevenson 1
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                  @johnstevenson1
                  Posted by alan smith 6 on 16/12/2012 23:11:58:

                  John,

                  I have specialised in manufacturing spares for high end Vintage cars and quickly found that I was not up speed on the machining. For the last fifteen years I have used A precision engineering co. in Coventry to machine the parts with complete satisfaction. I would never dream of going to a juvenile such as you for this work.

                  .

                  Alan,

                  Have you ever thought to ask the Coventry lot where they sub – con some their work to ?

                  You know bits that take time and paitence.

                  #106566
                  KWIL
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                    @kwil

                    Well we really must be near the end of this thread.

                    So at last we find out that Alan Smith is such a good designer he cannot even carry out his own designs/work. Unfortunately we now have a lot of so called qualified designers and engineers who see themselves as little tin gods and have the nerve to say how good they are!.

                    I know of one MAJOR UK operation that is having great difficulty with people like Alan Smith, know it all, have all the qualifications and cannot see how bad they are at the job they aspire to, one of the troubles this organisation faces is that these so called designers can draw many things that are not possible to manufacture because they do not understand/appreciate the processes involved. Apparently at least this Alan Smith appreciates tolerances.

                    I have enjoyed this thread enormously, thank you everyone who has made a positive contribution, you can see the other side quite clearly as well.

                    #106568
                    Terryd
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                      @terryd72465
                      Posted by John Stevenson on 16/12/2012 22:26:23:

                      As for your kind offer of not doing work for me, I already have a trusted team that do my work. Real craftsmen with good British machines and they don`t have a problem with discussing tolerances. In fact they work to them unlike you that can`t even give the tolerances that you are working to for the bore diameter in those Myford gears.

                      Alan

                      You seem to have a knack for either misreading or ignoring posts……………………..

                      Hi John,

                      I just wonder why someone with a 'trusted team' using 'British machines' who work to high 'tolerances' is doing buying Myford gears from RDG in the first place crook.

                      As far as British machines are concerned I remember buying British cars, motorbikes, washing machines etc etc. Not always great stuff all leaving much to be desired. it was often about the same as the poor Chines/Indian stuff available now, remember the Morris Marina/Ital anyone?. Take off those heavily rose tinted spectacles occasionally when looking back with 'regret'.

                      I believe even Dyson doesn't have their stuff made in the UK any longer

                      Thanks for your earlier P.M. John, I'll reply properly as soon as I can.

                      Best regards

                      Terry

                      #106571
                      Terryd
                      Participant
                        @terryd72465

                        Surely one has to do very little real design to copy parts for 'high end vintage cars', a bit of drawing – yes, design – no. Does the original poster even understand what 'design' really involves?

                        Hi KWIL,

                        Why spoil the fun? wink 2

                        Terry

                        #106575
                        CHRIS WOODS 1
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                          @chriswoods1

                          Whatever happened to that usually welcome intervention "This correspondence will now cease" ?

                          #106576
                          alan smith 6
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                            @alansmith6

                            Just a word before I continue to answer your posts.

                            It`s a pity that this thread has descended into anarchy it was initiated to help other modellers to know and report sharp practices by dodgy suppliers but now has become a point scoring spree.

                            We have had very interesting posts by serious people but because of this nonsense initiated by John Stevenson, no self respecting person will bother to send in a serious post again,

                            I have come to the conclusion that certain of the contributers like the smell of blood and will distort and put words into my mouth that I never uttered, to create a bad image of me. Now the whole world seems intent on posting boorish, tacky and insulting messages that have no relevance to the original thread, shame on you!

                            I hope that you understand that because of the volume of posts coming in, I speed read them all, however I`m unable to answer all of them directly but have to concentrate on the main culprits not the sycophantic followers.

                            According to the latest posts John and Terry seem to be messaging each other, I bet it`s not about the availability of virgins, or perhaps it is,

                            On with the motley,

                            Alan

                            Edited By alan smith 6 on 17/12/2012 10:54:27

                            #106577
                            David Clark 13
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                              @davidclark13

                              Hi there

                              I thought everyone was enjoying this?

                              Perhaps a vote.

                              Who would like it to continue and who would like it to cease?

                              John and Alan, please refrain from voting.

                              regards David

                              #106578
                              Cornish Jack
                              Participant
                                @cornishjack

                                Remarkable that such heat (and not much light!) (JS's contributions excluded) could be generated when the culprit offers the MAJOR clue to his agenda – he spends considerable time in NORWAY – a country of exquisite, breathtaking scenery and the loveliest people, but famous, among other things, for … TROLLS!!

                                Rgds

                                Bill

                                #106580
                                Peter Hall
                                Participant
                                  @peterhall61789

                                  DC1 – don't you dare pull the plug.

                                  Pete

                                  #106581
                                  The Merry Miller
                                  Participant
                                    @themerrymiller

                                    So much for the "Brotherhood of Model Engineers".

                                    Len. P.

                                    P.S. I think I'll see what the Sisterhood has to offer.wink

                                    #106591
                                    alan smith 6
                                    Participant
                                      @alansmith6
                                      This is getting out of hand.
                                      I am pulling the plug.
                                      regards david
                                       
                                      Moderator

                                      Edited By David Clark 1 on 17/12/2012 12:02:42

                                      #106593
                                      alan smith 6
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                                        @alansmith6

                                        Bill, Hows Cornwall,

                                        Trolls are mythical creatures like your brain!

                                        Alan

                                        #106594
                                        David Clark 13
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                                          @davidclark13

                                          This thread is now closed.

                                          regards David

                                           

                                          Edited By David Clark 1 on 17/12/2012 12:03:01

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