CBD Oil

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

It's a long shot but I guess there's one or two on here who have already found a need for it.

After a few years of to'ing & fro'ing between various doctors nobody seems to be able to sort my back out. This latest flare up has left me in EXTREME pain & I've had to plead with my GP to give me something 'cos I MUST be mobile next week.

I have a weeks supply of Diazepam (valium) which has an instant effect on the pain . . . but I daren't drive.

<Edit – sorry have to be sensible- neil>

They're telling me to try CBD Oil.

Has anyone come across a brand that doesn't cost more than my house, is readily available & works for you???

Edited By Mick Charity on 22/11/2018 08:59:36

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 22/11/2018 10:05:38

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Beware of drugs that mask the pain. The pain is there as a warning. If you ignore it you may do further damage. Don't ask me how I know.

Better to try physiotherapy, osteopathy, or chiropractic whichever suits you.

Russell

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 22/11/2018 09:04:03:

Beware of drugs that mask the pain. The pain is there as a warning. If you ignore it you may do further damage. Don't ask me how I know.

Better to try physiotherapy, osteopathy, or chiropractic whichever suits you.

Russell

Yep. Been there & done that.

My osteopath actually showed off her brand new Range Rover to me the last time I went !

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

I’m not a doctor, so would not be making any diagnosis or medication suggestion over the internet (I doubt any self respecting doctor would, either).

However, from the net:

“ Cannabidiol (more commonly known as CBD) has experienced a surge in popularity in recent months, in part due to its availability in high-street health shops.”

That seems to indicate that it should not cost more than an arm and a leg for a small sample to try out.

[Ian HewsonParticipant @ianhewson99641]

Had chronic back pain for years, know how you feel, nhs useless, tried all the physio, chiropractors, acupuncture etc.

Now use a physio who treats the causes not the symptoms, he was super on treating the symptoms and was a physio for the top rugby league teams.

Try finding Martin Higgins clinic on the web, usual disclaimers, both my wife and I use and recommend.

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Diazepam usually works by muscle relaxation..as in the spasm from whatever is going on making things worse. If it makes you so drowsy you don't feel fit to drive then reducing the dose may be enough but essentailly that back probably needs rest until the muscles settle down again. Lots of things might help but it depends on the nuances of your specific case and whether a specific and correct diagnosis has been made as to whether there's a permenant fix.

Simple options that might work include an orthopaedic corset, a properly designed and comfortable chair and car seat, physio to relax the muscles and teach you to train up the opposite acting muscles to balance the forces out, acupunctire on the trigger points helps some folk too.

I also have a dud back.. in my case from some old abscess in the vertebral body and horrendous new bone formation impinging on the nerve roots and narrowing the vertebral canal so what works for me likely won't work for you but in my case paradoxically wood-splitting with a splitting maul helps as did getting my favourite car's drivers' seat re-stuffed and using a rowing machine (sensibly) – in other words keeping the area mobile instead of rest. If I do flare it up then I just have to rest it and pop a single dose of prednisolone.

pgk

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

My doctor prescribed tramadol and naproxen when I had back problems.

I used the tramadol once, it was horrible.

What worked (and surprisingly quickly) were stretching exercises and a full-day rated office chair.

Went to see the sawbones yesterday for bursitis I've had for two weeks. He say I have to wait six weeks before he'll lance it as it's uninfected – I keep looking at a scriber, not sure I will last six weeks… point is I have got earache because of a cold and he suggested giving myself a cocktail of ibuprofen and co-codamol (they really don't like aspirin these days). I've managed to sleep using ibuprofen and pareacetamol but his recipe might be enough to help you cope.

I suspect CDB is a bit like suggesting someone wanting a beer drinks ovaltine.

Neil

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Find yourself a good osteopath, they are worth their weight in gold, in most cases with backs at anything beyond middle age the cause is not curable but a good osteopath can give significant relief from the pain. Once you have a chronic back problem you will suffer significant pain and pain relief is usually the most you can expect. I visit an osteopath every four weeks for treatment, damage to my spine is causing gradual paralysis and pain on one side of my body, she is able to determine where the pain is worst as soon as she lays hands on me and a half hour of gentle treatment gives considerable relief. Unfortunately there are very few osteopaths who are NHS therefore it will cost.

Dave W

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Had experience of poor NHS treatment for back pain and having to pay for good private treatment. Now, living in France, when my back plays up I just go to my GP and he gives me a prescription for Kinestherapy (physiotherapy) and I go to a local man who does massage for pain control and manipulation combined with exercise to treat the cause twice a week for 15 sessions repeatable if necessary. All free of charge

Russell

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

There used to be a device on the market, where you strapped yourself to a sort of bed, which could then pivot so that you were upside down. The idea was that the weight of your legs put your back in traction and relieved pressure on the discs, allowing them to move, and stop or reduce pressure on the nerves.

I have found relief in similar ways, by hanging from a door lintel, the loft ladder or by being between two chairs back to back, and supporting myself on my arms, so that my feet are off the ground. The problem is that I can only do it for less than a minute, but if repeated, without dropping suddenly onto the feet, it seems to work.

But that may not be case for everyone, depends on the source of the trouble.

Howard

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

These simple exercises really work and have less risk of further injury than hanging upside down…

http://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/lower-back-pain-exercises/

They work for me, very well especially number 1.

Neil

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

To add to the diversity of back problems and relief of same.

Back in the 1980s, I swivelled around in a doorway and ‘ouch’. Well a bit more than that.

Their were times when it ‘locked’ and I could neither stand up nor get down,on the floor, due to the pain. Lots of dosh spent on osteopaths in the late 80s. Some relief but nothing more than temporary (I wondered if they were simply ‘milking’ my wallet).

My son would force my leg as far as he could get it, within reason, and that relieved it on occasions. Eventually tried a chiropractor on the advice of a friend. Instant success – he said it was not spinal but nerves in a bundle in the sacral pelvic region. He sorted me in a couple of visits.

I still cannot carry heavy weights, for far, before the problem returns. Standing around (shopping with my wife!) also brings on the pain after about half an hour. I can walk miles, with no aggravation, as long as I keep moving steadiy.

My wife knows just where to massage the knot of nerves and the relief can be almost immediate – until the next time.

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

Posted by not done it yet on 22/11/2018 13:44:08:

To add to the diversity of back problems and relief of same.

Back in the 1980s, I swivelled around in a doorway and ‘ouch’. Well a bit more than that.

Their were times when it ‘locked’ and I could neither stand up nor get down,on the floor, due to the pain. Lots of dosh spent on osteopaths in the late 80s. Some relief but nothing more than temporary (I wondered if they were simply ‘milking’ my wallet).

My son would force my leg as far as he could get it, within reason, and that relieved it on occasions. Eventually tried a chiropractor on the advice of a friend. Instant success – he said it was not spinal but nerves in a bundle in the sacral pelvic region. He sorted me in a couple of visits.

I still cannot carry heavy weights, for far, before the problem returns. Standing around (shopping with my wife!) also brings on the pain after about half an hour. I can walk miles, with no aggravation, as long as I keep moving steadiy.

My wife knows just where to massage the knot of nerves and the relief can be almost immediate – until the next time.

I've highlighted the remark you need to edit.

[Benjamin DayParticipant @benjaminday94198]

C.b.d works. It helps my anxiety. And my sister uses it to help manage a shoulder injury, she has physio too but says the c.b.d does help. She’s a fitness instructor, and was impressed how much it helped.
Holland and Barrett sell a 5% oil thats ok for around ?22 for 10ml. Online you can find higher percentage oil (I use 10% @ ?30 10ml).

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

https://www.lovecbd.org/

 

Martin.

Edited By blowlamp on 22/11/2018 14:55:18

[Rik ShawParticipant @rikshaw]

My back was done (badly) in 1986 – 3 level spinal fusion laminectomy with bone grafts taken from my hip to lock everything up after the discs were removed.>>

Thirty two years on and the disk at the top of the wound has popped causing even more pain. I spent years trying to find a way of getting a good nights sleep until some friends invited me to go camping with them. I took with me a cheap blow up Argos mattress and had the most comfortable night I'd had since the op – oh so very comfortable!>>

I now permanently kip on an Argos special on top of our conventional mattress. Breathing at this elevated altitude is no problem, I wear a CPAP mask. >>

I try to avoid pharmaceutical drugs and rely instead on traditional Scottish Speyside distillations because I love tradition and natural remedies – even if they will eventually deliver me >>

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Howard, I used to hang on the back of a door and get a lot of relief, but I was much younger then, now at 72 I can no longer manage it hence the osteopath option.

Dave W

[Jon LawesParticipant @jonlawes51698]

I tried CBD to try to calm down my Phantom Limb pain, only kicked in (hah!) years after I lost the leg. I found it did nothing that couldn't be considered a placebo affect, and just made me worry when work had random drug tests! As you might expect, having no THC content, works drug testing wasn't concerned by anything they found. I suspect its because there was nothing having any affect in there.

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Posted by Jon Lawes on 22/11/2018 20:40:18:

I tried CBD to try to calm down my Phantom Limb pain, only kicked in (hah!) years after I lost the leg. I found it did nothing that couldn't be considered a placebo affect, and just made me worry when work had random drug tests! As you might expect, having no THC content, works drug testing wasn't concerned by anything they found. I suspect its because there was nothing having any affect in there.

That's interesting because I'm trying to find out which brands people are using simply because at the price some of them are flying out the door there is an awful amount that contains no CBD as well as no THC.

Some of them are nothing more than olive oil with a little colour & flavouring added.

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