A sight for sore eyes

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by Bill Chugg on 22/03/2020 12:09:21:

There is the one particular lady engineer that puts us all in the shade.

Had a lady pilot last tme we went to Scilly,

Bill

Ah, but where were you supposed to be going??

..couldn't resist..
I actually had a lady flying instructor for one trip. – great fun, though i had to grab her by the skirt to stop her falling out while i was playing silly-beggers….but that's another story.

pgk

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by blowlamp on 22/03/2020 12:47:28:

 

 

Get listing their inventions then.

And what have you invented? Apart from a unique way to display your ignorance? No wait, a billion ignoramuses have done that already on the internet before you. So not even that.

Just for starters here are a few women's inventions listed below, plus another 50 are detailed here , **50 Inventions by Women**

All of it quite interesting reading as it turns out. Everything from the circular saw to Kevlar. Rotary engine, the muffler, locomotive "chimney", and the medical syringe that might even save your life iwhen a Covid19 vaccine becomes available — which doubtless will involve many women in its research, development and manufacture. Also  they invented algorithms, caller ID and the first word processor. The list just goes on and on. Makes your personal best look a bit lame I'm sure.

Pretty good effort when you consider that for most of history women were denied the right to the kind of education and careers out of which most inventions grow.

Alphabet blocks	Adeline D. T. Whitney	1882
Apgar tests, which evaluate a baby’s health upon birth	Virginia Apgar	1952
Chocolate-chip cookies	Ruth Wakefield	1930
Circular saw	Tabitha Babbitt	1812
Dishwasher	Josephine Cochran	1872
Disposable diaper	Marion Donovan	1950
Electric hot water heater	Ida Forbes	1917
Elevated railway	Mary Walton	1881
Engine muffler	El Dorado Jones	1917
Fire escape	Anna Connelly	1887
Globes	Ellen Fitz	1875
Ironing board	Sarah Boone	1892
Kevlar, a steel-like fiber used in radial tires, crash helmets, and bulletproof vests	Stephanie Kwolek	1966
Life raft	Maria Beaseley	1882
Liquid Paper®, a quick-drying liquid used to correct mistakes printed on paper	Bessie Nesmith	1951
Locomotive chimney	Mary Walton	1879
Medical syringe	Letitia Geer	1899
Paper-bag-making machine	Margaret Knight	1871
Rolling pin	Catherine Deiner	1891
Rotary engine	Margaret Knight	1904
Scotchgard™ fabric protector	Patsy O. Sherman	1956
Snugli® baby carrier	Ann Moore	1965
Street-cleaning machine	Florence Parpart	1900
Submarine lamp and telescope	Sarah Mather	1845
Windshield wiper

[Pete RimmerParticipant @peterimmer30576]

Posted by Hopper on 22/03/2020 12:33:11:

Okay Boomers.

Seriously, have you blokes been self-isolating for the past 30 years? In 2016 there were 296,000 women working in construction in the UK, according to the Office of National Stats. Still a small minority overall but hardly a new or strange thing. It's been going on since the 70s. It's nothing new and it's nothing particularly unusual any more.

I've been working in construction for more than 30 years and whilst there are many more women working 'in construction' now they are almost all in 'soft' jobs. For example:

Surveyors

Site engineers

Site managers

Project managers

Document controllers

Environmental managers

Safety managers

Compliance

Office/welfare support staff

I've seen a few on the tools, but only very few. Saw a female brick layer, and you get quite a few women in M&E installation. One of the best crane operators I've ever known was a Polish lady.

What I've never seen women doing on the tools in the whole of my working life is:

Driving any diggers or other mechanical plant

Working in demolition (on the tools)

Steel fixing

Steel erecting

Concrete gangs

Or any of the other heavy-labour jobs in construction. So yeah whilst they are 'in construction' they are not generally fulfilling the roles that you associate with the stereotypical brawny male, and that's by choice- it's not like the opportunity is not there – it's that the typical female physique is not suited to the heavier work and they don't want to present too masculine an image.

This isn't bigotry or sexism, it's my observations and in my mind women are perfectly welcome to work in any role and in any industry they choose. In construction they very much tend to choose the non-physical roles.

[Ian ChildsParticipant @ianchilds37813]

Well over 20 years ago in the goldmines of Western Australia the large (250T+ carrying capacity) dump trucks were driven by women.

Women were prefered to men as they had less accidents, and the vehicles had less mechanical breakdowns, as they were driven more carefully. They were simply better drivers than the men.

Most of the them could drink the men under the table as well!

Edited By Ian Childs on 22/03/2020 21:54:30

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

Oh dear the page has gone wonky. Anyway guys I take it you have never been shopping with the wife. She can trundle around the shops all day with heavy bags of loot. You are saying oh my arms are falling off. True or not.

Anyway what started with me posting a polite thread has become a Battle of oldies.

Haha funny though.

Hope there is no AGM for this forum. It would need bouncers on the doors.

Steve.

[Peter G. ShawParticipant @peterg-shaw75338]

Well life does indeed make fools of us! Earlier in this thread I commented that there used to be a female refuse collection vehicle driver but I hadn't seen her for a while. Guess who turned up this morning – a very blonde pony tailed femail refuse collection vehicle driver!

Oh well, can't win 'em all.

Peter G. Shaw

[SakuraParticipant @sakura]

Hopper,

Please don't use the term "boomers". It is used as a term of derision and not needed on a forum such as this which mainly comprises of people of that generation.

[Raymond AndersonParticipant @raymondanderson34407]

As A Bricklayer / Mason I have seen a few females in the Construction industry and they all have 1 thing in common They are brilliant at their trade. be they, Joiners [ worked with a couple ] Painters, Plasterers, Electricians. My thinking is they are under scrutiny and therefore have to be that bit better …and they are. Only trade I have yet to see them do is Mason as I think the weight of Granite MIGHT be a bit much but I could well be wrong on that.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I think it was the mid to late 70s when pay was equalised but all jobs had to be done by everyone, the trim manufacturing was largely a female preserve and the welding and presshop were 100% male. The night shift was also a solely male shift, some of the jobs did require a significant physical strength which was beyond most women and even slightly built men, of course some of the girls were stitched up with these jobs just to make a point. Of course it all settled down and regulations on weights to be handled levelled the playing field. The night shift opened the doors to a bit of low level prostitution for a while but that blew itself out after a while. Forty years later people think nothing of females in a factory even though it is still a strongly male profile and with robots doing most of the hard work all the workforce are getting soft, so a gym is now provided for those who don’t get enough of a workout in the job. Times change.

Mike

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Oh I so love reading this thread the 'they can't do this' and they're no good at that, everyone is good at something, it might be they haven't found that something but what is very clear is that some women can thrash us at most jobs given the opportunity, we're just too afraid to give them that chance in case we lose our 'masculinity' .

There is the argument that women don't always get picked against male applicants for jobs even though we have 'equality' rules, there is still a sub culture that believes men should have the job anyway!!! Hmmm read some of the previous posts.

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

It's Me again, I once stopped a staunch feminist friend in her tracks, when overhearing her extolling the issue, I interupted To state that a woman would NEVER be equal to a man. I left it just long enough for what could be called "comic timing" then added "they are a complimentary pair" . It's the only time I've ever seen her stuck for words. Noel

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Don't ask…..

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Interesting mix of trades and sexes:

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by Sakura on 26/03/2020 12:36:19:

Hopper,

Please don't use the term "boomers". It is used as a term of derision and not needed on a forum such as this which mainly comprises of people of that generation.

Okay Boomer.

(I'm one of 'em you know. )

Edited By Hopper on 26/03/2020 21:14:18

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

I saw one similar of an Asian woman rendering a wall. It was on a staircase. A right grafter.

Steve.

[nigel jones 5Participant @nigeljones5]

Agent Floogal Boomer…look it up xxx

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by fizzy on 26/03/2020 23:20:05:

Agent Floogal Boomer…look it up xxx

Lol. Thats me. Trainee space cadet.

[thaiguzziParticipant @thaiguzzi]

Posted by Steviegtr on 26/03/2020 23:08:42:

I saw one similar of an Asian woman rendering a wall. It was on a staircase. A right grafter.

Steve.

Common throughout Asia, and particularly SE Asia to have more women than men in most labouring jobs on site inc, to name just a few, tilers, roofers, plumbers, brick layers, rebar tying in, tarmac layers etc etc etc.

Go into ironmongers or an independent auto factors, or a steel stockholders, (yeah, remember them?), and quite often, the main person at the desk for all orders is a woman.

[IanTParticipant @iant]

I lived in Hong Kong as a young man and walking to work had to climb up a level of about 150 steps – which wasn't a problem as I was very fit back then (but the humidity did result in you getting very sweaty).

There was some construction work en route at one time and this required rubble to be carried up the stairs to the road above – which was done by Chinese ladies with a large basket on each end of a bamboo pole.

The steps were a zig-zag with landings about every 20 steps. One morning I passed one of the labourers who had paused halfway up – and wondered how heavy the baskets were – so offered to take them up a flight. She laughed and agreed to let me try.

I couldn't even lift them – the bamboo pole had a lot of spring in it and kind of pushed back as you pushed up. I shook my head and said I couldn't lift it but I'm sure she thought I was pulling her leg. She picked it up quite easily and trotted off up the stairs still laughing…

Regards,

IanT

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