Hi Brian,

Appropriate CE marking is required on commercial boilers post 2002, it is not required on privately built boilers. So if the boiler is non commercial, there is no issue with there being no CE mark.

Hope this helps

Paul

CE would only have been required if it were a commercial boiler, if the one on your prospective loco was home made then there is no need for it to have a CE mark. Do you know if it is commercial or homemade?

Is there a boiler number, may be worth contacting polly to see if they have records.

Firstly I nothing about model boiler testing, I do know about autoclaves but let me ask this question

I buy a Polly kit with boiler today, it comes with a boiler number and a test certificate ? I get it fully assembled and working and get all safety checks etc etc done. I take it to an open day and the boiler lets go due to a mufacturing defect and someone gets seriously injured. If what you say aboput Polly's lack of records is true, rather than them just not wanting to hep you, I would not want to be the H&S manager at Polly when the HSE turn up asking to see;

Calibration records for testing equipment

Training records for the person dong the testing

Records of Tests vs boiler numbers & dates for the Boilers they make

Its all down to your boiler inspector either being reasonable or not. If its made by Polly and is CE stamped then it will have been made to an accepted design with the right materials. There should be no need whatsoever for any additional paperwork, just the usual visual, hydraulic then steam test. Im not the armchair pundit for what its worth, I meke them, repair them and have them tested, and yours should be a doddle to get through – assuming its copper?

Good afternoon Brian,were

I would as Fizzy has suggested, your first approach should be to your club boiler inspectors. It is an interesting question as the original paperwork is the start of any audit trail. The revised test procedures were promulgated in 2012 and the paperwork differs considerably to that of previous test regimes; as someone has already mentioned there was no statutory requirement on the part of Polly to retain copies of the paperwork, certainly beyond seven years; further I think the Polly who may have constructed the boiler may not be the same Polly Engineering we know today, the original company/supplier being taken over/bought by the present owners. Paperwork can and will get lost or destroyed, It won't be the last time I've seen a grate dropped into a tool box at the end of a days run, the test certificates being almost totally destroyed. So there has to be a starting point and that's your boiler testers, tease out the situation with them, they can always take council with the Northern Association and come to a decision as to the way forward.

Regards,

Bob Youldon